[glen]

I just read that WABC Radio legend Bob Grant passed away.

[JohnL]

Yes, he passed from an ongoing illness at 84. Audio, including many of the JAM jingles used during his show, in our audio appreciation at http://www.johnlightning.com/

[gameswizardMember]

JAM jingles

Just randomly listening, there seems to be lots of PAMS jingles.

Where’s the JAM stuff hiding at?

[JohnL]

To my knowledge, none of the jingles used are PAMS product, I believe they were all produced by Jon W for WABC. An example at the link below

https://soundcloud.com/user691417699/grant-cant-we-get-a-new-jingle

[glen]

One stiry I heard about Bob was that on his last show; knowing he was going to get fired; asked women for dates!

[gameswizardMember]

To my knowledge, none of the jingles used are PAMS product

I must be on the wrong page. Here’s where I am looking:
http://johnlightning.com/public/

(One that page near the top this, and many others, sounds like PAMS to me:
18 RNI’s Johnny P Lightning – Free Speech (Alt Glenni Track & Steel Mix).wav).

Could you link direct to the JAM stuff?
Thanks.

[JohnL]

My apologies Mr. Wizard. I was talking about the jingles used in the edited Bob Grant airchecks posted at that page after his demise.

The other jingles are there for the staff to download and come and go. If you wish, I shall post a folder with some of our Ken R PAMS product and in house edits, as I have yet to find the time to construct a proper montage. Currently our only JAM product is a top of the hour I got from JAM about a million years ago.

I am considering which additional jingles I will be getting from JAM, for certain, the famous WABC 121 is on my list. Hearing it once again on GEM AM reminded me how much I’d love that track as my top of the hour cut, and how it got me to tune to WABC, if only for the top of the hour.

As for Mr. Grants final shows Glen, I only heard one, his final show as it turned out, and he sounded more than a tad ‘out of it’. Whatever illness claimed him had obviously severely diminished his once formidable broadcasting skills, but I cannot imagine Bob soliciting any ‘chickie poos’ (as he liked to call the ladies) in the manner you mentioned.

[JohnL]

Game Wizard, I shall post our JAM track for you, the one I had Jon W & the crew produce for WBCQ, where sadly, it gets little use today, save for my using it still. It is from the Nothing But Class series, originally developed for WNBC AM, which is where I fell in love with it, back when both Don Imus and Howard Stern were both on the air there.

[gameswizardMember]

@ JohnL – Awesome. I shall look forward to hearing it

[JohnL]

At the /public page/, I’ve posted a folder with the name GAME WIZARD in which our JAM cut and some examples of KEN R’s fine PAMS work, plus some of our many in-house edits of said jingles can be found. (There must be a hundred or so total tracks we ordered from KEN R over the years, if I ever find where all of them now reside in my archive I’ll post some of the ones we have not used lately). Enjoy!

[mjb1124Member]

Rest in peace Bob Grant. I didn’t agree with a lot of his views, but nonetheless I found him to be a very engaging and entertaining host with a distinctive style that many have tried to imitate. Undoubtedly a broadcasting legend who essentially invented “news talk” radio as we know it today.

To my knowledge, none of the jingles used are PAMS product, I believe they were all produced by Jon W for WABC. An example at the link below

https://soundcloud.com/user691417699/grant-cant-we-get-a-new-jingle

What year is this aircheck from? I do remember this jingle from the early 90’s, before they got the JAM TalkTrax package. Are you sure it’s JAM? It doesn’t have the usual melody for “WABC”.

[JohnL]

Despite my being a liberal if not a radical in some respects, I LOVED listening to Bob. If there was a Talk Show Host 101 course, airchecks of Bob would be a mandatory listen.

And unlike with most conservative hosts, I agreed with him more than someone of my political persuasion should have… emblematic of his ability to be conservative but not a doctrinaire one.

The airchecks are from 1993.

[gameswizardMember]

Enjoy!

I love the JAM cuts you posted. Many thanks for sharing

[UKJinglesMember]

Thanks for sharing those custom cuts John…Yep the JAM Cuts are fabulous!
So are RNI/WBCQ different stations?

[glen]

I heard it from somebody who called the old Tom Synder show on ABC RADIO yrs ago.

[JohnL]

Pete: A little history: I believe Allan Weiner began WBCQ in the fall of 1998, where I was doing programming as RNI, or Radio NewYork International, a name that was in part inspired by the original Pirate RNI. We were clearded to use their old jingles and ID’s (properly edited) until we bought our first PAMS product from CPMG.

The American RNI began when we put a radio ship off the coast of Long Island USA (I believe in1987) broadcasting on Shortwave, Medium Wave, regular ‘ol AM, and FM!

That gig lasted 3 days before the ship was raided by the FCC with the assistance of the Coast Guard. The show I was to do on Saturday night, what was my place on NYC FM as a pirate for many years before the FCC closed me down (Yes, with badly sung and edited PAMS product), never happened as we never made it to Saturday night!

We came back legally on shortwaves WWCR and WRNO, where we did a few years of good radio before our funds ran out, as we were not exactly given air time, although that we had was affordably priced.

The usual infighting and ‘differences’ ended up in the dissolution of RNI for a while, then I returned to keep the flame alive on a series of small local AM and FM stations, most of them the property of Alan Weiner, who was now quite legal and licensed.There was an attempt at another ship, this one to be stationed off the coast of South America to beam shortwave programs. I did some 60 pre recorded hours of stuff with, of course, our CPMG and Ken R PAMS product, plus my in-house PAMS-ish stuff. That boat got busted before it ever left Boston harbor, when one of it’s financers decided to fire up a transmitter right there, and broadcast somrthing known as ‘The dirtiest show ever’, a filth fest I’d done on my old pirate station WJPL FM.

Finally, Allan put WBCQ on the shortwave airwaves. I melded my 11L Network (The ID I used when running WJPL) to RNI, making it somewhat more personally mine, as I had spent a decade as the only person doing RNI programming.

Today I still do two shows a month on WBCQ as RNI. Many of our old friends and staffers, also ID as and use our PAMS product, helping spread RNI programming, including Hank and Jim of the ‘Hank and Jim Network’, who do a weekly show for Offshore Music Radio (another proud user of PAMS jingles, as produced by JAM).

So 11L-RNI is not a station but a programming service. WBCQ operates on multiple shortwave frequencies, selling air time, most of which is purchased by religious broadcasters.

I still use all my PAMS product, and having studied at the Paul Sidney School of Jingle Editing (He being the late proprietor of WLNG, still homes to an endless number of PAMS jingles(streaming on the net)) I have taken generic stuff, pro pack stuff (dating back to the original two reels of pro pack goodies that came with our CPMG order), KER R stuff, tracks and used it as jingle helper, to make an endless number of alternate jingles and the like. They say I’ve never met a PAMS track I could not bastardize… they are right. And they help make our non commericial, money losing effort sound great.

None of us have ever made much, or in my case, anything doing radio, like so many of those who are also giving it away who post here, but this is what I do. We truly do it for the love of doing it. One of my long running hobbies is editing PAMS stuff. As most all of it has never aired, I hope to share some here to find out what the experts at Jingle Mad think of my ongoing predilection.

A long story made relatively brief. And yes, I have a fair number of personal cuts from the KEN R days, we shall share. Glad to be a part of a site that is heavy with people who loves radio jingles as much as I.

John Lightning http://johnlightning.com/

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