[michiMember]

I just got my JAM Personal Cut for J1 Radio and of course, I did another Turbo-Z cut 10. Turbo-Z 10 has been used on some way, shape or form on the operations of REC Networks for over 20 years and pretty much has become the theme of REC Networks. The nice thing about this cut is that you can fudge with the lyrics and move lines around. These are the two original versions that I had JAM do this past month and about 38 mixouts I was able to put together in about 3 hours. Enjoy. (Warning: this montage is not for the faint of heart as it is almost 4 minutes of just TZ-10).

J1 Radio – Turbo-Z cut 10 alternate mixes by Michiko by Michelle Bradley 2

[SeanMartin]

Wow. That really was a marathon of a montage TZ-10 is epic.

[gameswizardMember]

Interesting.

But some of those (lyrics) are butchered together in a way that, for me anyway, ruins the original jingle.

[IainJohnstonMember]

An absolute stoater of a montage! Its always been a favourite cut with Collectors.

Apologies for asking this…again…

I’m STILL after the long-lost Glasgow’s Clyde One FM 1993(?) “Best in the West” version of Turbo Z Cut 10, missing from the UK reference copy of the composite.

While on – have any JMers been experiencing intermittant “Service Not Available” messages from the Site in recent days?

[muffy]

Yes 5.45am today ..I had “Service Not Available”

[michiMemberAuthor]

Now for something strange.. take the vocal tracks and put them over a different jingle.. such as Warp Factor cut 24.
J1 TZ-10 vocals on top of Warp Factor #24 by Michelle Bradley 2

[TheCableguy]

Two different packages……how can that be ? The lyrics sound just right to me

[tyty21]

I used to have a montage of cut 10, but don’t know what happened to it. I know it got lost in my old hard drive, but if someone still has it on theirs, please post, as I know the links for the old jingle mad files are most likely dead.

[IainJohnston]

“Two different packages……how can that be ? The lyrics sound just right to me”

For the beat timing, some of us call it the “digital metronome effect” – quite a few of us try experimenting with our Personal Cuts and seeing if the vocal mix-out from one item can “fit” the near-instrumental mix-out of another (without any time-shifting etc). Some JMers are indeed quite expert at this “art”!

Similarly, there are specific major and minor keys that “work best” not just in jingles but commercially available “songs”

I’m sure that JAM (and any other companies) write cuts to probably a well-honed and proven set of “tempos” and keys, and if the “click-tracks” for these are digital then many a cut from one package will no doubt have an identical timing pace to others and well, even with a cheapo PC software editor with waveform display it becomes a dawdle to match drumbeats of a track to an overlay of the “right” sylables of another vocal. Then its down “back-beat”, having a “good ear”, and so on.

And it can while away many a miserable winter’s evening

PS – Holy Grails – I’m STILL searching for the Turbo Z Cut 10 resing as done for Glasgow Scotland’s Clyde One FM circa 1993 – the only place I know that has it & its mixes in-the-clear now is the JAM Vault.

[TheCableguy]

Iain now you point it out I can see what you mean. I too have played with my personal cut and in fact been able to successfully mix it with cuts from a different packages. As you say it down to ear. Given all you’ve said do you think JAM in this case are happy that lyrics can be transposed so easily ? Maybe it doesn’t happen enough for them to worry ?

[IainJohnston]

I doubt if JAM (or TM etc) mind too much for Personal Cuts editing or other non-air usage, after all Jon is one of the biggest “jingle anoraks” of all and I’m sure he saw a few strange things even with PAMS stuff back in the cut-and-splice tape days

[IainJohnston]

Apologies for latching on to this thread again…
but THIS is the Holy Grail I mentioned above.

IJ-Clyde1-TZ10 by AllTheBestJingles

If it and/or its mixouts are ANYWHERE out there in-the-clear apart from Jon’s Vault then PLEASE contact me!
IJ

[LenGroat]

Iain:

They could STILL use that great sequence now… and it would REGISTER with the listeners…. that’s what jingles are meant to do…

[IainJohnston]

Len, 20 years have now passed since the then-SRH under Jimmy Gordon had Clyde using JAM – and that itself was 20 years after the station was founded.

Now its owned by foreigners (German) competing against other foreigners (Irish), with the same generic “blands” now being used across all the ex-SRH Scottish stations. The “sound” of radio has “moved on” – for better or for worse.

While rummaging for the above audio, I found an old aircheck cassette I made back then of Clyde with JAM on the air – I’ll maybe compile some of it into an “off-air jingle montage” and post it on Jonno’s or Paul’s airchecks thread.

[UKJinglesMember]

I just got my JAM Personal Cut for J1 Radio and of course, I did another Turbo-Z cut 10. Turbo-Z 10 has been used on some way, shape or form on the operations of REC Networks for over 20 years and pretty much has become the theme of REC Networks. The nice thing about this cut is that you can fudge with the lyrics and move lines around. These are the two original versions that I had JAM do this past month and about 38 mixouts I was able to put together in about 3 hours. Enjoy. (Warning: this montage is not for the faint of heart as it is almost 4 minutes of just TZ-10).

J1 Radio – Turbo-Z cut 10 alternate mixes by Michiko by Michelle Bradley 2

Does anybody know where that little Moog Sting comes from in this montage?
Jon doesn’t recognize it as a JAM element……
I’m having my original Turbo Z “re-mastered” (as my “master” copy from 1992 is only a dub on a cassette now!)
I quite like a couple of the mixes in this but far too many repeats of the same version over and over again…

[DuncanNewmarchMember]

Hey Pete, I also had TZ10 recorded around the same time and was wondering whether Jon could remaster with a couple of special mixes I didn’t get first time. How much is it costing? Thanks, D

[UKJinglesMember]

Hey Pete, I also had TZ10 recorded around the same time and was wondering whether Jon could remaster with a couple of special mixes I didn’t get first time. How much is it costing? Thanks, D

Hi Duncan I will PM you!

[michiMemberAuthor]

Does anybody know where that little Moog Sting comes from in this montage?
Jon doesn’t recognize it as a JAM element……
I’m having my original Turbo Z “re-mastered” (as my “master” copy from 1992 is only a dub on a cassette now!)
I quite like a couple of the mixes in this but far too many repeats of the same version over and over again…

Do you mean this?
Embedded at home.recnet.com/soundcloud

This was a cut that was included on my original delivery of the TZ-10 personal cut lyriced for J1 Radio on 2/25/2013. This was track #17. Track #18 was the same with a sono tag (and had two mixouts for the tag done). So, it did come from JAM. I wonder what other hidden gems there are on these masters?

[IainJohnston]

Sometimes Jon has been known to “create” an impromptu “extra bit” or two when doing Personal Cuts
I doubt if he “lets them out” very often, so if one “gets one”, thats a bonus!

But I’m sure that many a multi-track (and not just JAM…) has all sorts of “layers” of sound that come together in the final mix to provide the rich textures that we’ve all come to expect and enjoy.

This ancient (and probably incomplete?) bit of audio is by (“someone” (?!!) at PAMS – its “not HIM, away back then, surely”???) from a tape I had over 40 years ago; even then the “layering” that the newer-multiple tracking PAMS 10-track rig and the use of a (then monophonic?) Moog could do shows the “art” of texturing to create a “final” sound. In this instance a much-earlier PAMS big-band-ish series track gets a makeover.

The quality is dire, but its the content that I hope might be of interest!
(And if there’s a “better quality”/more complete version “out there” anywhere…?)

IJ

[UKJinglesMember]

Thanks Michi,

I will send this to Jon and see what he can do for me!

[michiMemberAuthor]

While we were on this subject of jingles that just don’t normally go together. Here are some others I have worked over time..

Embedded at home.recnet.com/soundcloud

1. TM Channel 4 Hot AC (Ch.4) #1 vocals on JAM Warp Factor (WF) #24
2. Ch.4 #2 vocal, Turbo Z (TZ) #10 sono and Ch.4 #1 vocal on JAM Z World #8
3. Ch.4 #5 vocal and TZ #10 sono on Drake-Cheunault XT-40 Top of Hour cut
4. TZ #10 vocal and sono on JAM Laser Image #3
5. alternate version of cut 4 using using both vocal and sono to sing “J1”
6. TZ #10 vocal and sono on JAM Skywave #1
(and for something totally unecessary…)
7. Ignite KIIS TOH with Goatsynth effects.

I do have fun working with tracks when I can get them.

[IainJohnston]

Dammit! Missed the “edit window timeout”!
“Moog layering” Audio as described above.

Embedded at home.recnet.com/soundcloud

[mbMember]

always reminds me of Jon Pertwee Dr Who episodes

[Tracy CarmanMember]

Dammit! Missed the “edit window timeout”!
“Moog layering” Audio as described above.

This is actually a “chat tape” that Jon Wolfert sent to Ken Deutsch back in 1971. Somewhere I have a good quality dub of it (as I’m sure Jon does).

[Tracy CarmanMember]

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