[IainJohnstonMember]

Mike, I stand here shamefully bollocked!
I will write 100 lines saying “I must not mention Palm/Cramming/Turkey Ever Again“!

(I'd only responded too because Beaver had asked…)

So indeed – a GOOD re-sing by Thompson – their Atlanta 94-Q effort for Kent's twin-frequency
station KFM – I've a tape of them from the station (montage still available) and also heard them
on air, and they worked really well (probably because they weren't cra…($%&*£……strangling noise off…)).

PS – have found your “kareoke” item request – will email it to you tonight ;^)

Edit:- from an earlier time on JM…Thompson at their best…
http://www.4shared.com/file/64550750/83cf53e2/Wixy1360-s2s-WBCT-GrandRapids-ThomsonCreative.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/64550829/be0e3abc/Wixy1360-s2s-KFM-Kent-ThomsonCreative.html

[Good Time Oldie]

LOL!!

Iain, hopefully you know it's not personal, just think enough is enough now already!

Thanks for the offer of help with the “you know what”, I appreciate that mate.

All together now

“Wake up, WAKE UP, get up and get going, get up with Johnny in the morning…….”

and

“Good morning Texas (Texas), good to see you again…..”

Brill!!!

The Gobby1

[JingleMadMember]

I love cut #9 from Today's country.

All together now!

Nobody, Nobody plays more country!

Today's country and your all time favorites.

99.9, KKFC

[GlennaMember]

I still like the California Country TOH.
I love the SAN FRAN-CIS-CO – SAN JOSE

[Barras]

Some Thompson Creative master DATs – I took this picture when TC was based at the former JAM studios in Insurance Lane, Dallas.

Barras

[coolnt]

here is a clip from star fm, it's taken from a KLUC package from thompson creative.

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1222494788_542_FT65547_starfm.mp3 filename:starfm.mp3

[IainJohnstonMember]

Just to add to Thompson's long history of taking over “other people's” old studios…
they seem to have renovated…(awed hush…) the legendary 4141 Office Parkway!

(Or has everyone known this for ages but me ???)

[IainJohnstonMember]

Thanks Neal, like my “Jingle Dubs – To Do Yet” List for various people I'm clearly not keeping up!

{As mentioned in the other thread, can we re-direct anyone reaching as far as this post over
to the other thread???? http://www.jinglemad.com/forum_viewtopic.php?3.65678 }

[martinlesterMember]

thegobby1 wrote:
Whilst I respect fully the comments made by Martin and Iain, I do feel this constant mention of Palm FM everytime Thompson Creative is talked about on here is fast becoming like some messy/petty “domestic”, and is old Hat now. Surely Larry and the team must have released some good packages?, so why not discuss them instead of focussing on this one set of cuts all the time?.

I am a massive JAM and TM fan, and you're not telling me that they haven't released stuff that they are less than happy/proud of?. Granted the “Turkey” would never had been recorded let alone released with Jon,TM etc, but is it Larry's fault that today's PDs don't have any balls?. I am sure Thompson Creative will sing ANYTHING if asked, and we don't know if Larry had mentioned the overloading of the words at the session, we weren't there, so we just don't know.

Also, I understand that Larry is a very busy guy with other things too, he doesn't just sit at his desk in Thompson Towers waiting for the jingle orders to come in. Although perhaps it might be time to think about having a change of UK Rep, someone who doesn't keep you on the phone for thirty minutes every time, anyone fancy it?.

So come on guys, enough “Palm,Cramming and Turkey” references now, lets highlight the good work done by Thompson Creative for a change, and you have to admit they have done some, haven't they? (yes they may be old packages but it doesn't stop them being good, I still like “Puppet on a string” by Sandie Shaw and that was 1967).

This is a Jingle Site if something is Good I say so If it is not I also say so
To give a balance I already said that back in the 80’s Thompson did produce some very good packages and hear is one of my personal cuts

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1222624143_4681_FT65547_tropical_punch.mp3 filename:tropical_punch.mp3

For me to produce good Jingles you have to be 100% passionate about the product and people like Jon at JAM are, even after 30+ Years,

If I have ever asked for a Jingle with words that don’t fit, Jon would say so or offer alternative lyrics that most of the time are better than my original,

I only mentioned the Palm in response to TOH comment that “Thompson Creative has been very busy resinging their back catalogue of packages”

This is the only package that I have heard over the last 2 Years; I am not sure why Larry Thompson needs some unofficial spokesman every other Jingle Co has posted their own comments including JAM/ TM Studios/ IQ Beats/ Reel world,

I also note that over the last 2 years every Major Jingle Company has had Audio Posted on Jingle Network Podcast not only new packages but re-sings as well ,

Why not Thompson ?

But what would Jon at JAM have done if a Client wanted Lyrics that just could not fit into
The Track would he have Crammed It In and Banked the money?

The way as Jingle is adapted is just as Important as the way the singers sing the track (for Example)
Hear is a JAM Jingle

The Original end sing is KNIX

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1222624262_4681_FT65547_jam_1_knix.mp3 filename:jam_1_knix.mp3

What if a Station with Call Letters WSM FM wanted the same cut?
This is how Jon did it

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1222624446_4681_FT65547_jam_2_wsm_fm.mp3 filename:jam_2_wsm_fm.mp3

Just think what the Palm Jingles would have sounded like with a little more care in the early stages of production

[Barras]

Just for the hell of it, here`s another resing of that JAM cut !

Simple but clever how they shout the “Boca Raton-Miami” at the end of the sung jingle, no cramming of “Boca Raton-Miami” in the sung part of the cut…

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1222642514_3680_FT65547_jam_wkis_toh_1990.mp3 filename:jam_wkis_toh_1990.mp3

Barras

[IainJohnstonMember]

From personal experience, I know that Jon not only does indeed give excellent
feedback on the client's “requested lyrics” & fitting-in thereof, but does make it work
superbly without the use of the dreaded “jingle-related c-word”!

(PS – Thompson's “Tropical Punch” is a favourite package of mine – I DO like much
of their custom work – its some of their actual re-sings that tend to cause a raised
eyebrow or two!)

[martinlesterMember]

TOH wrote:

There's various references (and I think audio) about it around JM – it was notorious for extremely “crammed-in” rushed vocals (often a Thompson “feature”, but these were absolutely beyond excuse), and also “Torquay” was pronouced almost as “turkey”!

The package was pulled off air fairly soon after the station launch.

Whoa. Wait a minute. Are Thompson Creative really to blame 100% here? Let's not forget the client (Palm 105) would have selected the package they wanted to purchase and based their own lyrics around the individual cuts. They would then go to Thompson Creative for the package to be sung. All Thompson did was meet the clients requirements based on the brief they had recieved. If they were pulled after Palm launched, that is no fault of Thompson Creative. The PD or whoever was in charge of purchasing the jingles must have approved the final mixes and authorised them to go to air. Normally what happens is, if the jingle company hasn't delievered what the cleint was looking for, the cuts would be worked on again until the client is happy with the end product.

Rushed lyrics don't just come from Thompson Creative either. There are are a lot of awful resings out there from the other boys in Seattle and Dallas. But like I said, if that's what the client wants that is what he will get.

Well 6 months on from the Original Post and the “New Packages” or the Cut-by-Cut Feature, New Website
never materialised in fact the latest NEWS on the Thompson Site is dated Aug 2008

We now have it confirmed on another post that Thompson Studio is up for sale

http://www.jinglemad.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?69049

While it is a shame, the fact is if you have not got a good person on staff to adapt a custom package ,then your credibility goes, while the Palm was just one example of this, as Dave Langer was the UK Rep, I am sure he is well aware how Torquay should be sung so should have been pointed out/ Rejected before passing this on to the client

[Good Time Oldie]

LOL!!!!

Totally agree about Dave Langer though, those thirty minute phone conversations were very frustrating lol
Larry, I know you often pop by to read these things, so good luck with whatever the future has in store for you and Su (you still have your other ventures, programming, VO work etc to keep you busy and off the streets).

By the way, a small Uk station launched in January 09 using Thompson Creative resings.

[upsweepMember]

Unrelated to last post, but I was wondering what Packages did Thompson do for UK Radio, so go on educate me! :@

[Barras]

upsweep wrote:
Unrelated to last post, but I was wondering what Packages did Thompson do for UK Radio, so go on educate me! :@

Hi Upsweep,

just done a search of my jingle list and it shows these UK stations…of course, not ALL of the stations will be listed here but this should give you a good idea of what TC has done for the UK…

Radio Top shop
CD 602
FM 104 Dublin
Atlantic 252
Hereford Hospital Radio
KCBC Kettering
Tony Blackburn BBC Radio London
South East Radio
Nottingham Hospital radio
Classic Gold Radio
Aire FM
1152 Clyde 2
Amber Radio
Arrow FM
Power FM
Pulse FM
Radio Borders
Meadowhall Radio
East Kent Radio
Country 1035 London
John Scragg in the morning
Fresh AM North Yorkshire
WLR-FM Waterford, Ireland
Radio Victory
Radio Mercury
Medway FM
SGR-FM
Belfast City Beat
DCR Peterborough
EKR Europe
Forth 2
Radio Briars Hey
Radio Marsden
WFMR Warrington
97.2 Stray FM
Midland Radio
107.5 Today`s Active FM
Dudley Hospital Radio
Yorkshire Dales Radio
City FM
Kingstown Radio, Hull

Barras

[m_hodgeyMember]

Barras wrote:
Pulse FM

The Pulse (Bradford, West Yorkshire) have never used Thompson Creative jingles as far as I know. The “Pulse FM” jingles to which you refer are for a Contemporary Christian music station in South Bend, Indiana: http://www.pulsefm.com/

[martinlesterMember]

Barras wrote:

Unrelated to last post, but I was wondering what Packages did Thompson do for UK Radio, so go on educate me! :@

Tony Blackburn BBC Radio London
Barras

I used to listen to Tony Blackburn and I can't remember any Thomopson's Cuts. CPMG and PAMS but not Thompson if you have got any examples I would love to hear them

[upsweepMember]

Barras wrote:

Hi Upsweep,

just done a search of my jingle list and it shows these UK stations…of course, not ALL of the stations will be listed here but this should give you a good idea of what TC has done for the UK…

Barras

Thanx for timely response to Q David. Thats quite a list of work they have done in the UK, bigger than I anticipated, just have not heard much around of their examples.

[Barras]

No problem Upsweep, it was interesting to see how much stuff I have from TC and to Mark & Martin, a case of human error with those two entries – the Blackburn jingles accidentally came up in the Thompson Creative search and the Pulse isn`t the UK station….

#0064
JAM – Q96 (ILR Paisley, Scotland – TEST TX)
Lea Thompson aircheck on XFM London – May 1992
THOMPSON CREATIVE – Y94, The Promo Pack 1992
The Thompson Creative jingle “we can sing….”
Thompson Creative – Hereford Hospital Radio
Sweepers from Larry Thompson, Ben Friedman, Buzz-tone, Sonovox
Tony Blackburn jingles
KCBC 1530am (ILR Kettering & Corby)

Barras

[IainJohnstonMember]

Apologies if these are “doublers”…

Channel 103, Jersey (Tropical Punch etc composite?)
Radio Avon, Lanarkshire (RSL?)
Castle Rock FM, Dumbarton
Atlantic 252 (!)
Stray FM, Harrogate
KFM, Tonbridge
CTFM Canterbury
HFM, Market Harborough
Palm FM, (er…no, I won't try to pronounce where!!!)
1521 (Surrey?)
TLR Thanet
NECR Inverurie (thats in sheep country near Aberdeen)
Wave Blackpool (with the non-fitting shopping centre lyrics)
Radio Victory, Portsmouth (cable station, post-Ocean Sound?)
Forth2, Edinburgh
KCBC Kettering
JM'er Martin Lester, and many other individual DJs & Hospital Radio stations

And gawd knows how many more RSLs etc etc.

[Inferno]

Thompson also did Centre FM's first jingle package in 1998 before Touch Radio got it's claws in.

[IainJohnstonMember]

Ian, a very considerable number of their UK clients indeed sadly now no longer exist
at all or have been repeatedly swallowed-up by layer upon layer of corporate takeovers
& mergers and subsequent loss of identity!

Unfortunately comes of having a “small-to-medium market” client base of so many
“Sallies” and other non-big-city stations that eventually couldn't survive as stand-alones. :^(

Despite the “hiccups” so often discussed about some of their re-sing efforts, a great
many of the cuts they did for UK clients (including customs e.g. Medway) DO sound
well-produced and thoroughly professional for the target price ranges involved.

So lets hope all works out well for Larry & Susan once the dust settles :^)

[martinlesterMember]

I am sure Ben Freedman told me this at least 2 Years ago and it was reported on the JingleNetwork

when produced by David Hemsley

Larry & Susan main focus is the production of syndicated Radio Shows for the US MARKET

[theniceguy]

Martin Lester wrote:

Larry & Susan main focus is the production of syndicated Radio Shows for the US MARKET

That's right. Susan told me this last year. It took less effort and had higher earnings. They we're busy extending the programming side to have ultimately a complete 24 hour channel service.. If i remember correctly

[mbMember]

tThere are some jingle GEMs in the Thompson line up, Atlantic 252 was a stunning package, Tropical punch and WRMF are two of my all time favourites and the Dalls Mix series fantastic.
No downer I've hard some duds from all the companies but as long as the client is happy who are we to judge.

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