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TMguy wrote: Can’t wait for this Fairwest stuff to finally come out after all these years! Even KenR didn’t have any of this stuff.

Tracy – do you have any samples of WIBC or WNAP from Fairwest that you could post until the time they come out on CD?

Nope… Ken didn’t have any of this stuff. In fact, he called me a few months ago to ask for some dubs of things for his personal collection. This is what initially prompted me to get off my butt and get the stuff baked and dubbed. Also, I wanted it digitally transferred so we can release it. As it turns out, it’s good that we’re doing this project next as the tapes are deteriorating. As I said in an earlier post, once they’re transferred this time around, the tapes will be hamburger.

These reels were in safe hands in Dallas…. stored quietly on a series of 6′ shelves, awaiting packing crates and a call to FedEx to pick ’em up and bring them to Massachusetts. Only part of the library is shown in the picture. There are also the rest of the 1/4″ reels along with a few shelves of 2″ multi-tracks (which weigh about 25 lbs per reel). Shipping is NEVER a cheap adventure! However, thankfully the library is intact. Only the non-Dolby 1/4″ reels are being dubbed now. I’ll have to do the Dolby stuff here, when I can get to it.

I don’t have samples of the WIBC or WNAP stuff here. The first fifty or so reels have been transferred by my archivist, but I haven’t received them or the CD dubs back yet. Once they are in-house, I’ll try to post a sample or two. I’ll also be busy preping the stuff for release, though I haven’t given much thought as to whether to do it by station… by package… or do various composites of the stuff. There are many many many many story cuts that could fill up several cds quite quickly…!!

I also just went and took another look at the picture I posted. For those in the know… the carton blocking the reels in the foreground says PRODUCER on it. This is part of the 1/4″ reels for TM’s PRODUCER production reel library that has yet to be unpacked. Too many boxes, too little time!

-TC

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Here’s something totally unremarkable… except that it will demonstrate how changing one part in the vocal group can color the whole sound. Canadian stations were having Series 42A “The Igniters” sung at PAMS in 1972/1973. In order to bring out that authentic sound… including the language French, PAMS brought in Celine Dessault to sing the lead female vocals for CJRC and lead the group. You can really tell the difference when they use the stock “golden” in the donut in one of the cuts vs this group singing their own thing.

I’ll leave it to you, the listener, to decide if you like the sound. Without Jackie Dickson on lead, personally, I thought it sucked. I wasn’t fond of this package (nor Series 43) to begin with. This particular package was produced on March 10, 1972.

http://www.jingles.org/cjrc_42.mp3

-TC

[Brian]

Formerly a “Web Of Trust Nominated Collector”?????????? 😳

Hey TC what’s happened?

[Jeffrey T. MasonMember]

PaulMc wrote: I noticed that today too… care to share with us TC?

Hey, if you guys would just LOOK at his post, you’ll see he’s GRADUATED to “Superstar Poster!!!” Be more observant, children.

[Jeffrey T. MasonMember]

Are we saying this was a DEMOTION???

[JingleMadMember]

Jeffrey_T_Mason wrote: Are we saying this was a DEMOTION???

It could be. I wonder will we hear why?

[Brian]

Jeffrey_T_Mason wrote:

Be more observant, children.

Less of the child stuff please. It was an observation based on the fact that someone who isn’t classed as a web of trust collector anymore maybe isn’t to be trusted, not that it applies to TC of course.
There are some members who have got large collections and who haven’t got to the dizzy heights of WOTC because of their poor trading record.

[martinlesterMember]

Thanks to TC for a very interesting post, this must be the worst PAMS re-sing I have ever heard! Almost as bad as the EAP re-sings

😡

Well not quite but I have always said there is something about the Dallas sound that can not be equalled by anyone else

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martinlester wrote: Thanks to TC for a very interesting post, this must be the worst PAMS re-sing I have ever heard! Almost as bad as the EAP re-sings.

Oh trust me… there are some other bad sings in the library also. I just saw this package on a CD I was filing, and remembered how bad it was from when I transferred the reel years ago.

-TC

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PaulMc” wrote:

Are we saying this was a DEMOTION???

It could be. I wonder will we hear why?

It was just a database glitch… but I couldn’t resist on commenting on it. I just got my avatar working again.

-TC

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One of the PAMS packages which everyone seemed to buy one cut from is Energy One. The cut… the PAMS Shotgun. While combing through some reels, I found WROK’s Energy One. Even through the thousands of reels of PAMS references I’ve listened to… there are some cuts I’ve never heard sung for anyone other than the pilot station. Some of these cuts fall into that catagory. So… for your listening pleasure, I present selected cuts from WROK PAMS Energy One… from the PAMS 15ips reference master……

http://www.jingles.org/wrokpams.mp3

-TC

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Here’s another goody from the tapes… WRVU Nashville’s PAMS Composite. Included are cuts from Series 37, 39 and Stereo Island. Also… the last cuts are part of their acapella grid. Note on the last cut that they kept an extra pot open… so you can hear both “sings” of the call letters before it joins the end tag. That should spell out how a grid works! (grin)

http://www.jingles.org/wrvupams.mp3

Enjoy…

-TC

[ronfilMember]

Great Post TC!
Keep the Jingles a Comin!!!

RT
http://www.famous56.com

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ronfil wrote: Great Post TC!
Keep the Jingles a Comin!!!

Glad you enjoyed it, Ron.

Okay… back in the G(olden) days… ya know, before computers, the internet, CDs and so on… all of the demos were sent out on 5″ reels (known in the industry as “Salesmen Reels”). In fact, in those days, many companies salespeople actually showed up at your station with a suitcase full of demo reels to sit in your production studio and listen to with you.

Now… You’ve heard the jingles… you’ve decided to buy a modern package… but how do you want it sung? Do you want the WABC logo? …the KLIF logo? …and so on. C’mon… You’re all geeks… you KNOW what these different logo/signatures are. The program directors didn’t. So — PAMS used to send out a little 5″ reel to reel tape with logo samples on it… and here’s the 1964 version with the cuts “Tightened Up”!

Enjoy…

http://www.jingles.org/pamssigs.mp3

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I make no bones about the fact that I was unimpressed by the PAMS product after 1973ish. In addition to the “numbered” series, PAMS did a number of customs… including a bunch for WLS. KCBQ in San Diego came to PAMS and had the 1976 WLS pkg sung. The logo doesn’t fit the tracks… and the singers suck………………. other than that, this is a great example of the final years of PAMS. Take a listen and let me know YOUR thoughts!

http://www.jingles.org/kcbqls76.mp3

-TC

[OnyxPaulMember]

Oh dear, yes. Crapola!

[ratnobMember]

Just shows how the conditions were right for JAM to come in and storm the market. I always find this period of PAMS a bit sad, hearing how a once-great company kind of lost the plot. Thanks for posting, TC.

[UKJinglesMember]

Yep I totally agree….
Personally I think it all went wrong after Series 43
(But I did like Regal Logos) 😆

[ratnobMember]

Me too – loved the Regal IDs

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petewilson wrote: But I did like Regal Logos 😆

The Regalogos demo, citing the fact that it’s got a unique logo, made me chuckle. Sure enough, some station (Hmmm… maybe WFLA?) had the package sung with their variable logo (which they said couldn’t be done). So much for THAT theory.

-TC

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WPLJ New York, NY used jingles from JAM, TMCI, C21, HLC and others. Here’s a quickie composite of some of the JAM cuts done in the eighties!

http://www.jingles.org/wpljjam1.mp3

-TC

[RobinBlamires]

A top upload TC!
Good to hear the variety of JAM jingles used on the station in addition to their custom packages.

[ratnobMember]

Yep, truly fascinating. I was in New York in the summer that WPLJ switched from a progressive rock format (no jingles, laconic links – I hated it, of course) to CHR. It must have been 1983, when Thriller was dominating the airwaves and Z-100 had turned the radio market on its head, and urban dance stations like WKTU were hugely popular. I recorded a long and cringe-making interview the station aired with its Program Director, Larry Burger (crazy name, crazy guy), in which he was clearly feeling the stress of loyal progressive rock listeners suddenly hearing Michael Jackson songs blasting out. I hadn’t realised the station then used so many different jingles from different producers. Fascinating, as ever, TC – thanks for posting.

[JingleMadMember]

http://www.jingles.org/wpljjam1.mp3

Tracy,

Many thanks for that download. That is by far the best one you have posted.

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JingleMad wrote: Many thanks for that download. That is by far the best one you have posted.

Well I don’t know ’bout that… but glad you enjoyed them. …and since I’m awake and in an editing kinda mode… here are some more cuts for WPLJ from additional JAM packages from 1986-1989.

http://www.jingles.org/wpljjam2.mp3

-TC

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