[Brian]

Another nice one TC, I do like to hear outtakes and session recordings (any more please TC). When I had a composite package recorded by Jam through Steve England for Shore FM I couldn’t attend the session via ISDN at Steve’s studio so he recorded the session for me and sent me a copy of the session. The singers do have a rye sense of humour and it’s good to hear it as well. 😆

[topcat]

From the dustpile… Selected cuts from WHB PAMS Series 26 & 18.

[jlehmann]

Great stuff from WHYN! Do you have any of the Q95 stuff they used sometime in the mid 90s?

The TOH cut is on here:
http://audio.bostonradio.org/fm-frequency.html

[topcat]

jlehmann wrote: Great stuff from WHYN! Do you have any of the Q95 stuff they used sometime in the mid 90s?

The TOH cut is on here:
http://audio.bostonradio.org/fm-frequency.html

Yup… I’ve got the JAM Master. Funny thing is… I see Sherry O’Neil (who is on that aircheck) every couple of weeks. She is no longer in the radio biz.

I’ll dig out the tapes, when I have time, and post a few cuts.

-TC

[topcat]

Here are a few cuts from PAMS packages produced for WHBB’s Series 32, 35, 31 and 41.

[topcat]

radioboy949 wrote: Thanks for sharing The Spirit. I remember when WTVX/Ft. Pierce-West Palm Beach used that when I was in high school. Took me back.

“The Spirit of Florida is alive on WTVX. Come share the spirit with WTVX.”

Man, they ran that into the freeking ground!

Since you mentioned WTVX…. Here’s a custom cut done by TM Century in September 1990. The “voice” is John Wells.

http://www.jingles.org/wtvx0990.mp3

-TC

[topcat]

It has been a while… but here’s an oldie but goodie…. News logos from the ABC radio network….

http://www.jingles.org/ABCnews.mp3

Enjoy!

-TC

[topcat]

With the recent demise of WCBS-FM from an oldies station to “Jack-FM” I have posted some examples of their PAMS Goldmine jingles elsewhere.

The “Morning Mayor” of WCBS-FM before his retirement… and the former Music Radio WABC was Harry Harrison. Here are a few examples of PAMS cuts produced for him…

http://www.jingles.org/wabc_hh.mp3

-TC

[topcat]

From 1971, here are cuts from WLOF Orlando’s PAMS Composite…

[UKJinglesMember]

topcat wrote: From 1971, here are cuts from WLOF Orlando’s PAMS Composite…

http://www.jingles.org/wlofpams.mp3

Nice one Tracey……Is that the Studio C Singers?
On a slightly different topic…..
Apart from the PAMS and the JAM Cut…..
Have you had any other customs produced by other Companies over the years?

Pete

[topcat]

petewilson” wrote:

From 1971, here are cuts from WLOF Orlando’s PAMS Composite…

http://www.jingles.org/wlofpams.mp3

Nice one Tracey……Is that the Studio C Singers?
On a slightly different topic…..
Apart from the PAMS and the JAM Cut…..
Have you had any other customs produced by other Companies over the years?

Pete

Er… it’s Tracy… not Tracey! (grin)

The vocal group on the WLOF session seems to be a mixed bag. The studio C group sang originally on the Series 38/39 packages. Personally, I don’t like the vocal style. The lead singer always seems to be “yucking”.

I had three cuts sung by the CPMG/PAMS group in May of 1988. That’s where the Series 44 Stepper cut came from. They also sang the Bosa Nova cut from Series 28 and the Weekend Vibrations cut from Series 33 (totally out of unison and vocal balance… it sucked).

I have the BIG PAPA cut from PAMS Series 33 sung by Trella Hart. It was done during the JAM/PAMS session for XM back in 2001.

As you know, I have the MAGIC MUSIC cut from JAM that was done in the eighties.

During a Los Angeles session of Drake cuts, I had the PAMS Series 22 “More Music, More Often” cut thrown in. The interesting thing… besides the fact that the singers were chronologically long beyond their prime… is that this was the final PAMS cut produced under the CPMG moniker…and not even sung in Dallas or Toledo. It also features the Los Angeles group… who were the same ones who sang the theme to THE FLINTSTONES, THE JETSONS and all of the stuff from that particular era. It appears at the end of one of the 1998 PAMS composites I produced.

Of course, I also have had several PAMS cuts done by the “North Coast Vocal Group” at KenR’s… many of which I’d long forgotten until I started transferring those reels to CD.

I have assorted shouts, produced by Tony Griffin Productions.

I do have in mind a few classic TM cuts I will eventually sit down and chart out the music ‘n lyrics for. Those are from IMAGE ’73 and WHERE YOUR FRIENDS ARE. Fortunately, the tracks for all of those packages do still exist.

I also have some fake Sonovox cuts produced by a friend of mine who shall remain nameless. (grin)

Aren’t you sorry you asked?

Regards,

-TC

[UKJinglesMember]

Sorry Tracy (without an “e”)
Interesting stuff…
Yeah I always thought the Studio C Stuff was naff..But that sounded good (which is why I questioned it)
Also learnt today that the Flintstones theme was sang by the LA singers (Which company would they have been with at the time?)
Which reminds me of my youth and watching an ancient US Comedy show called “Harold Lloyd” But only for the theme which always reminded me of the PAMS Singers!
Wouldnt mind hearing a TC Custom Montage sometime 😉

[topcat]

petewilson wrote: Also learnt today that the Flintstones theme was sang by the LA singers (Which company would they have been with at the time?)
Wouldnt mind hearing a TC Custom Montage sometime 😉

All that Hanna-Barbera stuff was sung by the standard backup singers / vocal group in Los Angeles, The Randy Van Horne Singers. Included in the group’s alumni are Sue Allen (the female lead on all of the Johnny Mann Drake jingles); Thurl Ravencrofts (who just died… the voice of Tony The Tiger for Kelloggs… and the west coast bass singer equivilent of Jim Clancy) and Marni Nixon (who ghost sang on a score of movie soundtracks for major league stars).

See http://www.spaceagepop.com/vanhorne.htm and http://www.hitchcock-media.com/Artists/vanhorne_splash.html for more information on the group.

I’ve put up a composite of jingles produced for my brother, Barry. At some point, I’ll have to put together a sampler of my cuts.

Best,

-TC

[Jeffrey T. MasonMember]

Tracy Carman (no e in either name) wrote: From 1971, here are cuts from WLOF Orlando’s PAMS Composite…

I’ve figured it out!

Where
Lyrics
Over
Flow

They sure utilize every second of the jingle to get the message across, don’t they? I actually dig them. Different than the cookie cutter WABC lyrics most stations used! Would love to hear more of this.

[topcat]

Just because… here are some sample cuts for WTIC-AM 1080’s TM Custom. They were… and continue to be… a full service station!

http://www.jingles.org/wtic1080.mp3

Enjoy!

[topcat]

The RKO radio group came to PAMS in the early seventies looking for jingles. The end result was a custom package entitled ENERGY ONE. I always thought the simple acapella vocals for the KFRC jock cuts were the best… very low-key, but distinctive. I’ve edited together a composite of the cuts for your listening enjoyment….

http://www.jingles.org/kfrc_e1a.mp3

PAMS was also doing some STEREO versions of their packages in the final days. Here are a few cuts from WDBR’s Series 43…

[topcat]

RJO wrote: What year was this custom from then TC?

I have no idea of when this was produced. The cuts are taken from a 5″ salesmen demo reel that I transferred to DAT years ago. I would guess it’s from around 1980.

Here’s something a little unusual. KFWB in Los Angeles had a custom version of PAMS Series 29. Some of the cuts were included in the MAGIC OF PAMS box set (see http://www.pams.com/pams/magic.html for more details on this set). Here are some of what I consider to be the more interesting cuts…..

http://www.jingles.org/kfwbpams.mp3

-TC

[topcat]

One final tidbit before I go to sleep. Some of you might wonder what the Dallas jingle singers would sound like if they sang normal songs as a vocal chorus. There are already examples of the male group in the Barbershop quartet style as led by Jim Clancy. The following are a few edited Christmas songs, as produced by Jim West, for a 2 CD set entitled ALL THE BEST OF CHRISTMAS: THE SOUNDS OF CHRISTMAS ORCHESTRA AND CHORUS. Before anyone asks…. this puppy has been out of print for a decade, so don’t bother looking for it.

Jim West, for those that don’t know, was at PAMS from (as he put it) Series 18 through 39. His last project at PAMS was the sale of jingles to Australian stations. He then went to TM… and was there through their golden era. He talks animated about the cutting off of the tail end of a cut with Buzz Bennett to create what became known as the TM Shotgun. After TM, he teamed up with Chris Kershaw to form Kershaw-West… later known as FairWest. They produced jingles both in Big D and through Dick Hamilton on the west coast. Jim is long retired and just moved back to Dallas from my neighborhood. Media Preservation Foundation proudly houses the many collected tape archives of FairWest.

http://www.jingles.org/bigdxmas.mp3

Comments?

-TC

[ratnobMember]

TC

Your nuggets of jingle history are priceless. I envy you that FairWest collection. When I was still in my Bob Dinan phase (regular readers will know what that’s all about), I received some FairWest stuff – including (I think) WAPE “Gone Country” and “Sounds Like” (though these may have been Kershaw West). Young Mr Barras and I are big fans of all this stuff.

Thanks for all of the great posts you’ve been doing recently.

[Barras]

The “bigdxmas” audio is wonderful !

If it wasn`t for TC and the great Bob Dinan, my jingle collection would be bereft of FairWest material. Here`s a pic of two FairWest original reels that Bob sent me………..

David Barras

[topcat]

Yup… I’ve got lots of boxes with those labels. Even as I type, the original reels are being baked and transferred to CD by my audio archivest. Even after baking, the reels are only good for one final play.

Eventually, we’ll probably compile a set of these to sell through Media Preservation Foundation.

(((click http://www.jingles.org/jw2.jpg to see a higher resolution picture)))

Best,

TC

[topcat]

ratnob wrote: Your nuggets of jingle history are priceless.

Thanks for all of the great posts you’ve been doing recently.

There is a lot of history available through the two books that KenR wrote coupled with Don Worsham’s book. However, there’s nothing like taking an hour or two over pancakes (as I did twice with Jim West) or brews (as I did with several other nameless people) to talk about the industry and the individuals involved. Some of the stories are priceless and published… others are little anecdotes that just linger in the back of ones mind.

I remember sitting with Jodie Lyons, Jim Wells and Don Worsham at Jodie’s house. I spent hours combing over hundreds (if not thousands) of reels long forgotten in his garage. As the scotch flowed, I had the presence of mind to ask about what I considered to be little things… such as the back-story on PAMS Series 28X. It amazed me that Jodie could sit there and rattle off the names of stations, dates, vocalists, production details and so on off the top of his head as if it were yesterday.

The late Edith Siday (wife of Eric Siday) could do the same thing. I’d ask about a particular production they’d done in the mid-fifties, and she’d tell me about the people involved: The station personnel; the singers; the production techniques and so on. Then she’d open a file drawer and start pulling out the original contracts, sheet music and so on.

The fact is… the people who were the key players in this business are getting old… and dying off. I’m thrilled to be able to say that I spent a few hours chatting with Bill Meeks in his den… or had several visits with Edith Siday in her late husband’s apartment audio studio. I can’t even describe the adrenelin rush of sitting in the studio with Brian Beck, Jim and Greg Clancy, Judy Parma and Abby Holmes as they sight-sang my three CPMG/PAMS cuts.

Bottom line: I’m pleased that I’ve been able to share some of these materials with you and the others, Geoff. I’m also hoping that I’ve been able to paint a picture with the back-stories and bring the stuff more to life than just having someone hit the “PLAY” button on a tape recorder (or computer, in this case).

Okay… enough rambling………………….!

-TC

[ratnobMember]

Fantastic. For me, this heritage is really important – it explains how we got where we are with the jingles of today, how trends appear and then evaporate, and how ultimately the jingle producers adapt their product to the radio stations of the day, or die. Many thanks, TC, for the history.

[TMguy]

Thanks for all the info!

I wondered where WIBC/WNAP here in Indianapolis got their jingles AFTER the demise of Heller. Your picture gave the answer as there are several boxes of WIBC and at least one from WNAP.

Richard Fairbanks (the owner) must have followed Dick Hamilton over to Fairwest due a similar sound after all those years of Heller.

Can’t wait for this Fairwest stuff to finally come out after all these years! Even KenR didn’t have any of this stuff.

Tracy – do you have any samples of WIBC or WNAP from Fairwest that you could post until the time they come out on CD?

[TServo2049]

TMguy wrote: Richard Fairbanks (the owner) must have followed Dick Hamilton over to Fairwest due a similar sound after all those years of Heller.

Actually, to tell you the truth, even after Hamilton left Heller in 1974 (his radio jingle work after that, and up until about 1978, was with TM, not Fairwest; I don’t know when he did the Fairwest stuff), Fairbanks kept getting stuff from them, through the rest of the 70s.

But Fairbanks indeed did get involved w/ Fairwest…in fact, Fairbanks is the “Fair” in Fairwest. (Previously, it was called Kershaw-West.)

I have no idea exactly which jingles the Fairbanks stations got from Fairwest…I only know that KVIL had the “You Are the Reason” jingles in the early 80s. (FYI, those were among the packages done in Dallas.)

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