‘This is a JAM stereo tape …”

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  • #11001
    ratnob
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      There’s always something special about coming across a jingle we hadn’t heard before.

      So it was yesterday. Sean Martin has sent me a CD of his many JAM personal cuts. They are mesmerising and, as with all personal cuts, we listen with a mix of admiration and simmering envy.

      But Sean’s jingles were preceded by a JAM “levels” track I hadn’t heard before. And predictably I’ve spent hours listening to its compelling harmonies.
      https://soundcloud.com/ratnob/jam-levels-song

      Sean: thank you!

      Ratnob

      #98008
      radiocitybill
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        I don’t know why, but the harmony sort of reminded me of something the late Karen Carpenter would have done.

        In the few JAM tapes I’ve ever used at radio stations I don’t recall ever hearing that nugget before.

        #98012
        IanF

          One word……Wonderful!

          #98013
          Sean Martin
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            Geoff: I always wonder if we haven’t heard everything already, so it’s nice that this “oldie” has reached fresh ears :)

            The actual tone was omitted as I’m sure you’ve heard it often enough.

            I don’t know exactly from which era it originates, but I’ll hazard a guess at the late 70’s.

            #98014
            gameswizard
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              The tones where omitted from the level track or just edit out?

              Also, does anyone have a copy of something which I think JAM called the “comment”(?).
              I was an accapella around 30 seconds long that started ‘Where have all the jingles gone…’.
              I heard it on a short jingle demo back in the 80s.

              #98015
              radio_bloke
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                Here You Go Mike

                Vinyl clicks ‘n all!

                #98016
                Jeffrey T. Mason
                Member

                  LOVE that! I’d also love to hear more of Sean’s personal cuts. We’re both addicted :-)

                  #98017
                  PK
                  Member

                    When Dublin’s Radio Nova played the JAM song on air in its 80s pirate days on high rotation in it’s playlist, Another Comment was edited onto the start and sounded great on air too, it’s where I first heard the JAM Song.

                    #98018
                    bland75
                    Member

                      Superb – thanks for posting ratnob! Perhaps JAM should also include this track when ordering personal cuts from now on.

                      #98019
                      GrahamCollins

                        The JAM ‘Stereo Aware’ dittie was tagged onto the front of the 1978 Radio 2 package demo, dated June of that year.

                        #98020
                        Tracy Carman
                        Member

                          Let’s add a couple of mono components… some of which go back to 1974…

                          #98021
                          rak
                          Member

                            Metro FM played the JAM Song on air, as well. I did record the end of it (once I’d got over the shock of hearing it on Metro!), but haven’t been able to locate the cassette :o(

                            #98022
                            gameswizard
                            Member

                              Here You Go Mike

                              That’s the one. Many thanks :)

                              #98025
                              radiocitybill
                              Member

                                Also, does anyone have a copy of something which I think JAM called the “comment”(?).
                                I was an accapella around 30 seconds long that started ‘Where have all the jingles gone…’.
                                I heard it on a short jingle demo back in the 80s.

                                It was the flip side of “The JAM Song” which I believe was a sonosheet record (I can’t find mine but I know somewhere I still have the sleeve). It’s great to hear that again.

                                #98026
                                gameswizard
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                                  It was the flip side of “The JAM Song”

                                  I didn’t know that.

                                  After the comment, there was a voice over from Jon then around 5 jingles.
                                  If I remember correctly:
                                  KIIS FM, Z100(?), WPLJ, Magic 103 and BBC Radio 1. A bit more from Jon then concluding with “You bet we give a damn at JAM”.

                                  #98027
                                  Tracy Carman
                                  Member

                                    It was the flip side of “The JAM Song”

                                    I didn’t know that.

                                    After the comment, there was a voice over from Jon then around 5 jingles.
                                    If I remember correctly:
                                    KIIS FM, Z100(?), WPLJ, Magic 103 and BBC Radio 1. A bit more from Jon then concluding with “You bet we give a damn at JAM”.

                                    https://soundcloud.com/radio-jingles-usa/jam-mid-80s-presentation-and-comment

                                    #98030
                                    gameswizard
                                    Member

                                      https://soundcloud.com/radio-jingles-usa/jam-mid-80s-presentation-and-comment

                                      Awesome. Thank you so much :)

                                      (I cant believe I forgot the KIMN jingle).

                                      #98049
                                      radiocitybill
                                      Member

                                        Thanks for posting the entire thing. I still remember listening to that in to production studio. Great, gerat memory flogger there.

                                        #98068
                                        IainJohnston

                                          I think the “Where Have All the Jingles Gone?” was “influenced” (*cough*) by the 1960s Protest Song
                                          “Where Have all the Flowers Gone?” by Judy Collins or someone similar, back in the Vietnam era?
                                          Perhaps TC or JMW himself might be able to provide the history on that one?

                                          #98117
                                          JAM / PAMS
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                                            I think the “Where Have All the Jingles Gone?” was “influenced” (*cough*) by the 1960s Protest Song
                                            “Where Have all the Flowers Gone?” by Judy Collins or someone similar

                                            It wasn’t “influenced” by that song, it WAS that song. With altered lyrics. Today you might call it a “parody version”.

                                            The original song was written in 1955 by Pete Seeger, and other verses were added later. It was recorded by him and dozens of others in the 1960s, including well known versions by Peter Paul & Mary and The Kingston Trio.

                                            The JAM version is called “A Comment”, and was recorded in May 1974. At the time it was still fashionable for some stations to only use a handful of fast shotgun jingles (or just one!) and in our view it was taking the creativity out of jingles and, by extension, out of radio. The anti-war sentiment of the original song seemed to be a good fit for our new lyric line “imagination on the air, killed by shotguns everywhere”. We made it for fun. We sent out a few copies on 5″ reels to sympathetic friends and clients.

                                            When the The JAM Song was released in 1985, we sent it out on a vinyl record. Desperate for something to put on the “B” side, we remixed “A Comment” in stereo with some added synth at the end, and tried to communicate that things were better now (in the mid-80s) than they had been. That side of the record was labeled “Another Comment”.

                                            #98118
                                            JAM / PAMS
                                            Member

                                              Sean’s jingles were preceded by a JAM “levels” track I hadn’t heard before.

                                              For those who may not have seen the explanation we posted on the Bob Dinan Facebook page:

                                              “In the 70s the norm was to send out JAM jingle demos on reel-to-reel tape. But I knew from experience that very few radio stations could play back a stereo tape correctly, so most demos were made in mono. On the rare occasions that we did send out a stereo demo, I wanted to at least put a level tone on the front to improve the odds that both channels would be balanced. But we didn’t want the first sound heard to be a tone, which could be annoying if the listener has his volume cranked up expecting jingles. So this acappella seemed like a creative way to announce that this was a stereo tape, and give people a warning that a tone was about to be heard. To my knowledge, no other company ever considered stuff like that!” -jmw

                                              #98121
                                              IainJohnston

                                                “…it WAS that song”

                                                Thanks for coming in with the “background story” to this one (and indeed all the other ones today!) :^)

                                                #98127
                                                LenGroat

                                                  … and it’s moments of creative genius – in this case using just singers and a very strong concept, beautifully and memorably fulfilled – that separate JAM from from the “whoawhoawhoahoa/ScReEcHy vocals” jingle companies…..

                                                  #98128
                                                  glen

                                                    Otherwise known as fingernails on a chalkboard vocals

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