[IainJohnstonMember]

Geoff – any chance of an email attachment copy of that please, as my 20th-century PC doesn't like trying to run your 21st-century web software!

(Just for fun – will anyone dare post the Steve England “naughty vocals” sono out-take version that (I think) was on the session for County Sound GOLD a few years back?)
:^)

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

“Only Connect”:
http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/11/9_Only_Connect.html

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Podcast updated:
http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/11/14_Caroline__A_Mixed_Bag.html

Celebrating the best and worst of Radio Caroline's jingles.

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

A slightly obscure post, this one. It’s about songs that contain jingles.

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/11/26_Songs_with_jingles.html

[dianablanton1984Member]

ratnob wrote:

A slightly obscure post, this one. It’s about songs that contain jingles.

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/11/26_Songs_with_jingles.html

Oh wow….

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Not exactly infused with the seasonal spirit of goodwill, Bob Dinan wonders whether the Graham Norton jingles on Radio 2 are the worst on British Radio?

Bah humbug.

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/12/5_Grill_Graham.html

[rakMember]

How about a list of songs that mention JAM demos by name? For example Boom Boom Pow by the Black Eyed Peas mentions “Future Flow”!

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

I've always been interested in the way programme directors 'educate' their presenters about newly-bought jingles. Here's a lovely example from the early nineties: I call it East Midlands Boulevard.

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/12/11_East_Midlands_Boulevard.html

Jingle funster Len will be able to fill in some details of how the cuts were chosen, made, and used …

[IainJohnstonMember]

Nice one Geoff!

“jingles for”…different times of day etc, proper explanation of “talk-up” (not “ramp” -ugh!), and how to use different styles/textures of cuts…not just plugging-in statistics from computer-held databases and letting the computer “select” everything without creative thought.

I have to say some of the joint Leicester/GEM “together” sings haven't appeared on my “radar” – another for the “Never appeared on Steve England…” thread?

[mbMember]

I can never get the pages working it crashes both IE and ?firefox on my PC.

[LenGroat]

Thanks for the 'East Midlands Boulevard' post, it was good to hear that again.

It would take too long to fully explain why the cuts were 'chosen, made, and used' but to me the key things about the package are that:

* it shows what is very wrong now with the construction of 'packages' composed of just mixes of 8 'themes'

* it shows you can get more variety by 'cherry picking' syndicated packages rather than paying more (and getting less) for a custom

* it shows that even if you buy the 'good cuts' from Breakthru' to balance the sound you need material from Omni Trax +(17, 18, 19) Q Cuts, some WBLI and KOST. These give more musical variety to the package.

* its possible to have British tracks sung in Dallas that blend with JAM packages (Alan Fawkes superbly orchestrated mini song cuts 36 and 37)

* it celebrates summer with a 'year cut'. While some stations still have a Christmas cut, summer is months longer so why don't stations make a BIG thing out of it with their jingles?

* it was created to run for just 1 to 2 years (not 12 !!)

As regards how the cuts 'were chosen' – carefully and taking ino account the whole 24 hour day, not just focussing on 'Timmy and Fanny' on breakfast. I asked the presenters their thoughts, and being involved most were waiting at the station the day I came back from Dallas with the reels (good old days). We crammed into the production studio, 'turned up the volume' (they all dubbed copies) and the 'magic' began.

The actual in-house demo was the brilliance of Danny Cox who could do ANYTHING in radio from breakfast presenter to Programme Controller, he 'lived and breathed' it, and still does.

I do not think that British radio will ever return to this level of communication, presenter-management cameraderie, and individuality. But surely someone at the London or Seattle jingle companies could do something to get the jingle business out of the rut they've been in for too long?

Len

+ One of my all-time favourite JAM packages

[IainJohnstonMember]

Thanks Len – well-put, deeply informative, and shows why radio used to be much “friendlier” than today, on both sides of the mic.

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Len

Fascinating insights, beautifully put. Much appreciated. Don't lose that evangelical wish for great radio. It will come back, because listeners want something distinctive they can't get from their iPod. Presenters, jingles, 'stationality' make a difference.

G

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Podcast updated:
Manilow Memories:

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/12/22_Manilow_Memories.html

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

No audio this time, just a question for programme directors:

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/12/28_Bob’s_End_of_Year_Question.html

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Podcast updated:
“Street Name”: Toby Arnold jingles for US1, Philadelphia (c1979)

http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2010/12/28_Street_Name.html

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Sorry to hear that, Jessie. The website is a very quick way of being able to post audio and give some commentary. Apologies that you can't access it. The material tends to be pretty familiar, so you're not missing much!

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Recorded a sung jingle (with brass) from KFRC yesterday. Any idea who made it?
Warning PC users: don't try to listen if you don't have QuickTime.
http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2011/1/9_Who_made_this_jingle.html

[Barras]

Hi Bob,

you could always do what you did in the 1980s and ring KFRC up and ask for their jingles !

I`m guessing TM of Dallas but not sure…

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

A jingle I'm embarrassed to say was my childhood favourite:
http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2011/1/14_Childish_Things.html
(If you don't have QuickTime, don't bother).

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Bob's podcast updated (you need QuickTime):
Jam's “Operation Desert Shield”:
http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2011/1/19_Desert_Shield.html

[GlennaMember]

Is there anyway to put Bob's podcast on mp3 so some of can't listen to it. And post it.

Thanks a million.

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Beaver205

Hadn't thought of that. Audio now available in downloads section:
http://jinglemad.com/download.php?view.3814

Bob's blurb:
http://web.mac.com/geoffbarton/Blog/Jingle_Podcast/Entries/2011/1/19_Desert_Shield.html

Hope that helps.

[Barras]

Hi Bob,

you do realize those jingles are on the JAM website, second post from the bottom of this page…

http://jingles.com/jam/fans/bits.html

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Oops – no. Sorry, folks. I'll punish myself by listening to some old EAP PAMS resings. Duh!

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