[Jonnyh]

Does anybody else agree that when you get a syndicated jingle sung at the likes of Jam and TM, it is never mixed very well. If you compare the demo mix of the cut to the one you have – I bet it’ll sound much thinner and the vocals will be too loud in the mix. Anyone else agree?

[JingleMadMember]

Just wondering if you’re asking this question because it’s happened to you . . . ???

If it has, then you can (should) take up the matter with the company who produced them to put the matter right. Mixing is very subjective, but should approximate to the demo. (And they’ll want you back to order more jingles therefore you need to be satisfied!!)

I was just thinking to myself what could be the reasons for a track not to “sound” like the demo, and there are a couple of reasons that come to mind. Singers move-on, retire or whatever, so you won’t always be getting the exact same group members that sang the original. (I know JAM have a couple of singers who don’t sing anywhere else but at JAM). Sometimes a station will have a composite package produced, containing cuts from a variety of packages – which used a variety of vocal groups/blends/textures. Often, but not always, one vocal group is used to resing the “composite” package so that all the cuts (and therefore the station) have a consistent “sound”. The original may have been sung with a 7-voice group, but is resung throughout the package with a 5-voice group.

In this case, its a client decision – not the production company.

Mojo radio in England have recently had the JAM “Breakthrough” package resung 15 years after it was first released for syndication. Played side by side with the demo you’d think they were both done in the same session!

I’ve been in both studios during singing and mixing of syndicated packages and have observed that the utmost attention is paid to replicate the sound on the demo, right down to the effects on the vocal tracks.

If you’ve examples, perhaps you could let us hear them!! We like listening to jingles!!!!

-Sean

[mbMember]

I think that is quite a sweeping statement as from the dealing I’ve had with Jingle producers they are devoted to getting it sounding just right. I’ve got packages which I think are actually beter than the demos, having said that I’ve recorded packages off air then come across the package from the station master and they sound very different.

From the many JAM resings and the MMI TM resing I’ve heard I can’t fault many. Wyvern FM and AM is I think one of the only disappointing resings I’ve heard in the UK. Certainly for Hallam, Key 103, Beacon, City FM, The Eagle I can’t fault the syndicated resings.

A lot sometimes has to do with the station – if you try to jam lyrics that dont fit like metropolitan worldwide radio into Z100 its going to sound odd but if thats what you want they’ll try their best.

Plus I believe TM have a money back guarantee – plus most companies give you the opportunity to go to the sessions and mix sessions. I’d have though that anyone with concerns would raise them at this stage???

[DJ]

I have to agree with what has been said in my experience jingles I have had done at TM sounded as good if not better than the orignal , I also recall that once I placed an order I got a letter from David Graupner which said “its important to us that you are completely satisified” which you can’t say fairer that that.

As for JAM I orderd a few cuts from them about 10 Years ago and was also very happy with the finished jingles, I have just orded some more and JW does spend a long time going over in detail how the cuts will sound on one of the cuts he even surgested an alternate lyrics to keep the its internal rhyme scheme in line 4 of the jingle

This attention to detail does not happen with all Dallas jingle companies ,but I have never had any problem with JAM or TM

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