Skywave #13 – the way it was meant to be.

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  • #11062
    Jeffrey T. Mason
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      I don’t usually post individual cuts for Jeffro Radio, but I was inspired to do so by an e-mail from Jon Wolfert.

      As part of my latest batch of cuts from JAM, I ordered Skywave #13. The lyrics: “Old enough to know better, but young enough not to care. Jeffro Radio!”

      Jon replied, “Skywave #13 – Would work nicely, and we could SING the whole thing rather than shout the middle, if you wanted to. (That’s the way this cut was originally designed.)” As you may recall, the demo version sings “Scott Shannon,”“with ten songs in a row.” I didn’t think much of this, other than the quick realization that I’ve NEVER heard it sung straight through.

      When the finished product arrived, a note from Jon was attached. It included this line: “Thanks for letting us do Skywave #13 as it was originally intended (ie. as a fully sung jingle without the annoying shouts) for the first time in decades.”

      I guess nobody else had considered doing something DIFFERENTLY than the Z100 demo in years. That blows my mind! BE CREATIVE, PEOPLE. It’s YOUR jingle! Make it UNIQUE.

      I think the full sing sounds awesome. How about you?

      #98732
      RobinBlamires

        Better sung yes. Rather nifty!

        #98734
        gameswizard
        Member

          I agree – it sounds awesome! :)

          #98735
          IainJohnston

            “BE CREATIVE, PEOPLE. It’s YOUR jingle! Make it UNIQUE”

            I’ve ALWAYS asked Jon to try and do my Personal Cuts in ways a bit different from the demos, and he’s always done me proud.

            I’m sure my “requests” must surely scunner him though, as in my financial circumstances I can only afford 1 cut per rare order, and I know that isn’t so easy for them to handle. But I highly commend his legendary “attention to detail” on even my daft stuff! :^)

            #98736
            Jeffrey T. Mason
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              IJ-

              Yes! I have noticed your cuts always DO have a different twist. Good stuff :-)

              #98739
              ratnob
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                BE CREATIVE, PEOPLE. It’s YOUR jingle! Make it UNIQUE.

                Jeffro – your jingles more than any others have made me think I should branch out lyrically. I can’t compete with ‘Hotel, motel, Holiday Inn’ but I have just placed an order for two JAM personal cuts that I think will entertain.

                My back-catalogue of personal cuts, with some quirky lyrics, is here:
                http://geoffbarton.co.uk/files/_IDs/Geoff-JAM.mp3

                #98744
                Jeffrey T. Mason
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                  While wacky lyrics are fun, sometimes it’s just the placement of your lyrics that makes a jingle unique!

                  Take, for instance, After Burner Cut #11. On the WNCI demo, it’s a bed that builds to the calls. When I had it cut for Jeffro Radio, I had lyrics sung over the ramp and even had JAM add some flange effects:

                  I also did something similar with Airpower Plus #19 from TM:

                  Hopefully, Jon and Greg have destroyed the vocal tracks *I* recorded and sent to them as examples of how I wanted these cuts sung. NOBODY needs to hear those!

                  Geoff – your stuff always puts a smile on my face! Thanks for sharing :-)

                  #98745
                  IainJohnston

                    Jeffro – thanks for your kind comment!

                    Geoff – may your new cuts lyrically continue to bring “cheesey”ness to even greater hights!

                    #98750
                    PK
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                      Jeffro – Beacon Radio in Wolverhampton also had Skywave #13 as a fully sung jingle too for their Beacon Breakfast Crew. Luv your new version Jeffrey!

                      Errrrm, I’m afraid Sean Martin & Greg also have a few very questionable demo’s of me singing (very badly and painfully) demonstrations of how I’d wanted jingle jingles sung and I also hope they’d never post them publicly too. But it is Halloween next weekend! Jon, Sean and Greg wouldn’t dare – would they? :-/

                      #98752
                      IainJohnston

                        “very questionable demo’s of me singing”

                        I’ve various items of such “exploitable” audio of various now “well-known JMers” going back as much as 40+ years, and no doubt they could reciprocate if I was ever to “go public” with theirs!

                        Some things are best kept “in the attic” :^)

                        …and now back to the original topic… :^)

                        #98753
                        LenGroat

                          This is a very StImuLATinG topic -thanks Jefffro and everyone else! Looking for new ways with classic jingles is something I love to do. I spend hours trying out different rhymes, words, shouts, sono… even changing a melody or two if I get adventurous. Graham Collins who is now part of the Solid Gold Gem team often makes observations – it’s useful to bounce ideas around.

                          But then, in my briefs I have to check if they pass the ‘Jon test’: maybe see if an alternate sono version might work on a cut, and Jon tends to steer me to a ‘yay’ or ‘nay’ (thank goodness!) What’s amazing is that I can cherry pick cuts that are 20 , 30 or more years old, and they arrive sounding like originals as Jon matches vocals, sono, often even the original soloists!

                          Here’s a cut where Jon was not sure sono instead of singing fitted in the middle, but I LOVE it and think the lyric and sono go together beautifully. If you are over 50 you’ll know why we called it ‘Sparky’ !

                          https://soundcloud.com/len-groat/sparky-m-to-m

                          We’ve just had a new mini-package (of ALL JAM material) for our third anniversary week November 1st to 7th. I’ll gradually unveil those on here – including a new News jingle (partly customised as it did not have a vocal originally!) It’s our first in 3 years as it’s hard to replace the amazing WABC ‘Top News’ one we’ve had since day one.

                          #98754
                          mb
                          Member

                            Those wacky guys at Beacon also sung the cut all the way through for the Beacon Breakfast Crew as part of their last JAM package before GWR took full control and runined the station

                            Embedded at home.recnet.com/soundcloud

                            #98755
                            LenGroat

                              p.s.

                              I forget to credit Jon with something I completely missed – I got the line ‘Everything Old Is New Again’ from a (superb) Peter Allen song. But when Jon sent the cut he pointed out that we could have had it as:

                              “EverythinGold Is New Again” !

                              So we’ve done a cut like that in our new package!

                              #98758
                              Jeffrey T. Mason
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                                Len DEFINITELY gets what I’m saying. I’ve heard him replace sings with sono, sono with sings and even throw lyrics where they’ve never lived before! I still get excited when a new Solid Gold GEM AM cut shows up here. You da man, Len!

                                Here’s one of my earlier “alterations.” When we launched The 80s Channel in 1999, I replaced the jock shout with a frequency sing in Z Force #11. Though, we STILL used the mixout with our jock shouts. Two jingles for the price of one:

                                I had actually heard another version of that cut on Z100 with different effects and “Kid Kelly” sung instead of shouted. Maybe Jon can shed some light on that. Was it an early audition mix?

                                #98770
                                LenGroat

                                  Jeffro – thanks for the…. err ….compliment! “You Da man” !

                                  As you “still get excited when a new Solid Gold GEM AM cut shows up here” prepare for an exciting week – and you could always join us for a weekly show, called ‘The Jeffro on the Radio’ show – you have enough jingles!

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