[ratnobMemberAuthor]

John Wolfert and I …

Oops – did I really write ‘John’? I meant, of course, ‘Jon’. There is no alternative.

[IainJohnston]

“thank you for the music; thank you for the jingles; thank you for the magic”

Eruditely written Geoff – could almost be written into a Jingle!
And an excellent blog all round

[Jim Donahue]

I can’t wait Geoff – especially for the Radio One/Two discussions!

[Tracy CarmanMember]

John Wolfert and I …

Oops – did I really write ‘John’? I meant, of course, ‘Jon’. There is no alternative.

We figured you were just tired…

[tokumaru1]

“thank you for the music; thank you for the jingles; thank you for the magic” AND thank you ratnob for the daily recounting of what must have been a most wonderful trip. I have thoroughly enjoyed your writing and the audio
Were I not a farcebook ludite I would be enjoying the photos too, perhaps someone could be kind enough to help a social-medialess outcast have a look at them somehow

[UKJinglesMember]

Thanks Geoff (and Jon) for some great Audio (and Photos) this week and Day 6 with The History of Logos, Jam Song and Radio 1 and 2 Jingles…Wow that was the icing on the cake and extremely enjoyable!! >

[jonnoMember]

So gracious of Jon to have hosted you this week. Thanks Geoff for letting us ‘come along’ with you.

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Perhaps someone could be kind enough to help a social-medialess outcast have a look at them somehow

I’ve uploaded the main photos from the week here:
http://s58.photobucket.com/user/BobDinan/library/?sort=3&page=1

Hope it works for you.

Ratnob

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Just added – for the true (aka hardcore) aficionados of the jingle heritage:
a 90-minute conversation in which Jon Wolfert and I discuss a number of Dick Hamilton jingles.

Hear the main jingle here:
http://www.geoffbarton.co.uk//files/Audio/Bob-in-Dallas/KFI-640.m4a

Hear our conversation here:
http://www.geoffbarton.co.uk//files/Audio/Bob-in-Dallas/BID28-Heritage.mp3

[Duncan]

Interesting and entertaining, it was almost as good as actually being there. I imagined you both sat behind the piano, talking jingles. Well done on achieving this and thanks for letting us all in on a dream trip to Dallas.

…and hello back to you Jon. If anyone was ever born to make jingles, to completely understand how they work and create them better than anyone else in the world- it’s you.

[tokumaru1]

Thanks very much for the alternate photo location – works a treat

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

In case you missed it, JMW explains to me the JAM ‘on hold’ phone message:

[scotronMember]

Referring to that KF1 jingle, I have a cassette off air recording somewhere of that very jingle, edited of course, being used by Noel Edmonds on one of his shows…might have been when he was on Sundays way back in 1972 ish!!. He used it as a v/o bed. This is the first time I have heard it since then. Beautiful cut..

[GrahamCollins]

Geoff, you have saved me a lot of time and expense! I felt I was there with you and don’t really have to go myself now! Jon would be bored rigid answering exactly the same questions Well done to both of you and thanks for sharing the experience so fully.

GC

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Geoff, you have saved me a lot of time and expense! I felt I was there with you and don’t really have to go myself now!

Graham – thank you for understanding the nature of the blog. It was intended to ask the kinds of questions and to see the kinds of things that we collectors wanted to ask and to see.

It was a very special visit, and I feel privileged to have been given the level of access I was given. I will add some further audio and then video in the coming weeks, but I am so pleased that people like you have understood what the blog was intend to achieve.

Many thanks.

Ratnob

[IainJohnston]

The superb KFI Heller “Big Town” cut – can be found on the KenR “LA Radio” selection CD, which I have if anyone requires a dub.

[kolossMember]

Just to give this thread a bump-
Everyone hopefully has listened to all of Geoff’s audio with Mr Wolfert. To add to what everyone else has said here, Geoff went on this trip and thoughtfully took us all there with him- the insight Jon provided is incredible, surely only a tiny bit of 40 years making jingles.

While I’ve collected every Heller/Hamilton jingle I could get my hands on- that discussion was fascinating, the KFI cut is one of the best jingles ever made–I’ve actually made my friends listen to it
And the WLW lucky 7 cut was in 7/4 time; etc. they were keeping themselves amused at all times.
So the long audio is well worth listening to and we owe a bundle of thanks to Geoff!

KFI – big sound by koloss8

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Geoff went on this trip and thoughtfully took us all there with him- the insight Jon provided is incredible, surely only a tiny bit of 40 years making jingles.

Many thanks for your comments, Wade.

You’re right: I recorded several hours of audio (most of it posted, a bit more to follow, plus some video also to follow), and – in the words of that great TM ‘Hicklin Singers’ demo* – we only ‘began to scratch the surface’ (retort from another era: ‘Well you gotta know how to look after your records’).

We got to talk about lots of processes – how chords work, how different combinations of singers create different effects, and the background to lots of JAM jingles, as well as the long discussion of Dick Hamilton’s work – but I came home with a list of topics and questions I never got to.

What has been great is how much people on JingleMad and via Bob’s Facebook page seem to have enjoyed and appreciated the audio. Much appreciated. I’ve listened to little else for the past two weeks that these Heller cuts – hearing them, as you say, with new insights into their brilliance.

*That demo was written and produced by Ken Justiss who I had the great honour of meeting over dinner during my Dallas pilgrimage.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152273410829804&set=pb.721959803.-2207520000.1393912059.&type=3&theater

[loujosephs]

KGJ did great moog news intros from WAPE and WDIZ both in Florida..both for one newsman..You should take this entire audio and edit it with some bridge jingles between talk elements and you have a true jingle documentary.

[IainJohnston]

Re the excellent PAMS Goldmine WCAU-FM custom…
…seems worth trotting out this one again from 3 years ago!
Various station resings of it as well as from the original.
(Also posting on the JM S/c page – now that I’ve remembered how to do it…I think? )
Wixy1360-PAMS-Goldmine-QuickieMontage-2010 by Wixy1360

Note:- WIBC Heller – a “reference quality” dub of my old station-recorded tape of a later Heller custom/composite for WIBC has been “recovered & restored” by Bossjock and Chalks. Audio-wise a bit rough, but if anyone wants to hear examples from it…?

Also, from “somewhere on the web” a few years ago, I think I have the earlier WIBC Heller effort – “Time – Time’s a Rabbit…” may ring a bell for any JMers as old as me…

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

…seems worth trotting out this one again from 3 years ago!

Many thanks indeed for trotting it out, Iain – a fascinating mix.

[IainJohnston]

And a very “tight” sound that PAMS created for it too – OK, “everyone” did the TOH timpani/pad/legal-ID thing with the near-same logo (Drake/Mann, TM, et all) but the PAMS one on this package absolutely walloped out of the speakers, especially in stereo.

Should also be noted that “Goldmine” was a “grid factory” effort, and also a case of a “network custom” being originally created for a “lesser market” (no offence to “Philly”!) O&O station THEN re-sung for the “primary” station in New York and then others.

PS – the cuts in full are on tracks on various KenR CDs (dubs available from me on request to serious Collectors…)

[loujosephs]

Yes goldmine did leap out of the speakers in Stereo..but at WROR we remixed them with more re-verb to make them sound way bigger when it hit the airchain..just a touch of fairbanks style reverb…
Ian only if you have the WIBC news intro and weather jingle from that package. I have that plus a couple of version’s of the time cut on a tape labeled Heller instramental logos.. but its on reel and I don’t have a reel to reel so…it sits.

[radio_blokeMember]

After Geoff was kind enough to take us all to JAM recently, I felt the need to the search for a personal cut.
As I was moving through the 240 odd demos I have, I was reminded that some go back to the “cassette dubbed 50 times” days. (junk) So I thought I’d check JAM’s website to see if cleaner versions were available. I notice when you put a tick in the select all box, several demos become visible but with the word “call” at the start of the line.
I’m in no doubt there is a good reason for this.
I thought I’d make a montage of one cut from each demo that is not available for download, just for our younger members.

Quality is poor and the montage does not flow too well as it is chronologically complied

Montage Of JAM Jingles Not Available For Download On The Website by Radio_Bloke

[ratnobMemberAuthor]

Quality is poor and the montage does not flow too well as it is chronologically complied

https://soundcloud.com/radio_bloke/montage-of-jam-jingles-not

What a great montage of so many brilliant jingles. Thank you!

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