Question on a WABC Pams jingle

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  • #106134
    JohnL

      While hardly an expert in this area, here is my take as one who has been using Series 30 jingles for decades. I have attached links to the cut (Series 30 “Weekend’ Cut #26). The first item in the Soundcloud file is what I believe was the ‘air’ version of the Series 30 “Weekend’ track. It lacks the ‘YEAH’ at the end which was probably an edit. I’ve heard versions of this track that do have the ‘YEAH’ end, I am unsure if those were so produced, or also later edits. The track also includes my edit showing how the track would sound with a YEAH at the end (that I cribbed from a JAM track), and the third is the air version I’ve been using for about 20 or so years. Somehow, it does sounds better with a big fat ‘YEAH” at the end!

      #106137
      glen

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        #106135
        JohnL

          Problem fixed Glen, Thanks!

          #106136
          Apollo

            There is no ‘yeah’ at the end of this jingle on the KenR air versions of WABC.

            #106138
            IainJohnston

              WQAM Miami’s version had the “yeah”!

              https://soundcloud.com/allthebestjingles01/wqam-pams30-cut26

              No “yeah” on this bit of audio editing – for “obvious reasons”!
              https://soundcloud.com/allthebestjingles01/s30-26

              #106139
              glen

                Thanks!!!

                #106141
                nleibo

                  I concur with BA –NO “Yeah”on Series 30 “Air”versions.

                  #106149
                  don1400
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                    Thanks for the input guys appreciate it. I guess I wasn’t having a senior moment in regards to the Yeah.
                    I don’t quite understand BA’s comment about Ken R’s “air” versions of WABC. Is he referring to Ken R’s re-sings for stations/individuals when he had rights to PAMS material, not actually re-sings that ran on WABC?
                    Rich
                    Green Bay

                    #106150
                    bobgreenradio
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                      once upon a time, when the ‘real’ pams was in business, they were very liberal with their “sample” tapes.
                      in most cases, the call sign used in the demos was WABC, however, the demo was not always the same version WABC was running on air. thus, it became necessary to state if the cut was the factory demo, or the actual performance air version.

                      #106151
                      bobgreenradio
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                        there are lots of versions of the same cut

                        #106152
                        Apollo

                          Bobgreenradio is correct. To clarify, I was referring to the Pams WABC air versions that were on the KENR cd.
                          Also, to complicate the matter, ‘re-sings’ means different things to different collectors. In the UK they use it to say a station ordered a package. When I started collecting in the US, re-sings meant a station had a package re-sung due to technical or vocal issues.

                          #106153
                          IainJohnston

                            Good point from Bruce – on this side of the Pond we’re indeed so used to “re-sing/resing” meaning a “series package” item backing track
                            being freshly sung to a customised lyric under syndication for another client other than the original custom commissioning.

                            Admittedly, there are examples of cuts being “sung again” because e.g. pronounciation being “not quite right” (has indeed happened to me,
                            but got “put right” I’m pleased to say, and was happy to go back again for another order at another time).

                            Bob’s comment about “Factory demo” versus “air” is a good one – so “just for fun”, for anyone that hasn’t ever heard the difference,
                            here’s the example of some PAMS 27 WABC demo cuts versus the lyrics/vocals that aired in New York (…or…not…(?) ;) )

                            #106154
                            Apollo

                              Speaking of WABC series 27, didn’t JAM do some new resings of this package around 2000 for WABC?
                              They played some on-air that I thought were new at the time.

                              #106155
                              nleibo

                                Yes, they did–which was the cause of some “controversy” on
                                “Another” jingles site–as i maintained–while others who didn’t know, disagreed–the package was called “SuperTalk”– and SOME folks on THAT site owe me an APOLOGY..:)
                                Hear it here: https://www.jingles.org/morewabc.mp3

                                #106156
                                Apollo

                                  Thanks for posting that. I remember a sonovox cut and the “Pam’s 27” New York City cut as well.

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