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January 1, 2018 at 2:46 pm #89989bobgreenradioMember
it is just a commodity, after all, and market pressures rule.
just like bread at the market. if the market i go to is expecting to get the same fee for week old bread, i go to a market with fresh goods. it can go stale on my shelf. i am not paying the shops excessive rates to pre-spoil my purchase.
what fool pays top price for bread on its way to the hog farm?
and yes, i know there are people that will……January 1, 2018 at 3:35 pm #89990UKJinglesMemberAbsolutely right Bob…If you want Crap you go to the Pound Shop…Yes you save money but the items are either defective or cheap and tacky…..
I think 2018 will be the year that the Big Boys in suits will be going here for their Jingles…….http://www.petewilson.net/Bull.mp3
Happy New Year!
January 1, 2018 at 6:35 pm #89973glenThe we will will buy jingles; IF you will throw in the production for free; has been around for years. O r sometimes its done vice versa. The old barter routine.
And unfortunately even the jock doesnt know its coming.
Small town radio used to be fun. And some respects it still is.
If you still find a mom/pop station that hasn’t been bought up by somebody else.January 2, 2018 at 12:12 am #89944JAM / PAMSMemberWhat you’re missing with the “bread” analogy is this: They’re not even tasting the bread. It doesn’t matter. They’re just buying it because it comes with a free can of beans.
January 2, 2018 at 12:44 am #89436glenYep.
January 2, 2018 at 12:55 am #89384glenAnd its going to change anytime soon.
KRKT bought a package from Canada and they received the prod package for free.
The jingles were really bad.
I still cannot believe that country oldie station in San Antonio actually bought same package. And so did SKY.
KRKT dumped them and went first to TM Rough and Ready and then New Tradition from Jam.
Both great packages.January 2, 2018 at 3:31 pm #89324bobgreenradioMemberperhaps bread was an abstract concept. guess I could have singled out a general motors product instead?
funny thing is seeing someone wondering why all those other studios are getting business….
surely everybody knows what the other shops are charging for goods…
so let me start with product quality and price-price-price
build a better mouse trap at a fair price and watch them fly.
duh.January 2, 2018 at 9:03 pm #89254teachercreatureWish GM would bring back the Corvair. Maybe “unsafe at any speed” but a great little car and to your point..quite inexpensive.
January 2, 2018 at 9:31 pm #89212bobgreenradioMemberquick! who remembers the corvan? and where was the motor?
am? am/fm? or fm in the dash? )November 10, 2021 at 3:03 pm #106747JimScottGarlandMemberTommy;c-69399 wrote:Like most of you, I’m also sad to see JAM dwindle away in the big markets. If I’m not mistaken, the only remaining JAM station in Dallas is the one run by a local high school. (KEOM)I remember that package quite fondly, with great cuts like “Mesquite Schools Radio”, “Music, News, Sports, and More”, and “Keeping you in touch with your Community”. It’s quite a good package. JAM has syndicated lots of WNIC packages to KEOM, including “It’s Nice”, “Very Nice”, and “Really Nice”.
November 12, 2021 at 4:01 pm #106759logodaveMemberThis is an old thread but… I remember as the Editor at JAM, on lunchbreaks and weekends, I would hear our (JAM) customs on KVIL, rehashed resings from Johnny Mann on KLUV (god bless his soul) and Blink-182 tunes on KDGE. JAM had an excellent run on KVIL. Was proud to serve both. KDGE had wonderful new music. KLUV was pushing the old stuff. KVIL was holding the market as best as they could. JAM was serving the Universe.
February 19, 2022 at 11:35 pm #107257JimScottGarlandMemberSpeaking of
logodave;c-76219 wrote:rehashed resings from Johnny Mann on KLUV (god bless his soul), My favorite ID from Johnny Mann’s DFW market was “Good Morning, Good Morning! Oooldies Radiooo, 98.7 KLUV!”. While on the topic, Johnny Mann worked for Sande and Greene Productions Inc. before his time at RKO General Inc. also known as Boss Radio ocassionally Now Radio.
February 20, 2022 at 1:47 pm #107264nleibowho did Johnny Mann work for when he did WMCA(NYC) “Good Guy” jingles circa 1964?
February 20, 2022 at 1:48 pm #107265JimScottGarlandMemberI believe it was Richard H Ullman.
February 21, 2022 at 3:49 am #107280JimScottGarlandMemberAlso, I heard from the Jingle Book by Ken R., The Anita Kerr WLS jingle was arranged by Dick Marx and recorded at Universal Studios Chicago.
February 21, 2022 at 9:56 pm #107289ratnobMemberlogodave;c-76219 wrote:This is an old thread but… JAM was serving the Universe.Beautifully put.
March 8, 2022 at 3:44 pm #107345JimScottGarlandMemberLet me tell you something: If you’re in Jacksonville, you write a jingle for somewhat local clients. After they approve the demo, you record the instruments in Miami, and the vocals and Orlando. After they approve the final product, it will be successful. What do you think? Is this real life or is this a joke?
March 8, 2022 at 4:27 pm #107346IainJohnstonPish.
April 30, 2022 at 7:21 pm #107537clj2MemberTo make matters worse, KLUV no longer even uses jingles. The package referenced in this thread was barely used.
Outside of CBS-FM, Audacy is not a fan of jingles on classic hits stations. The VP/format captain of the classic hits format under them does not really care for them (“clutter”) and has pushed to have them removed. He started with the company at KRTH where they were removed and then it went on a more national level after the format captain position was created. From my knowledge, WCBS, WOCL, KEYN, WOLX, and WOMC are the only Audacy classic hits stations still using jingles. WIAD has them very sparingly. WOGL had all but eliminated them prior to their rebrand to Big 98.1 several days ago and I doubt they’ll get any sings for the new station.
May 2, 2022 at 5:12 am #107540nleiboTo “echo” Iain’s comment…<<"Pish">>
May 2, 2022 at 6:49 am #107541IainJohnstonIndeed Neil, its a fine old Scottish word.
I was though only applying it to a particular individual post, not the whole thread/topic per se.
o:)May 2, 2022 at 11:37 am #107542WAVAMemberInstrumelody;c-76823 wrote:Let me tell you something: If you’re in Jacksonville, you write a jingle for somewhat local clients. After they approve the demo, you record the instruments in Miami, and the vocals and Orlando. After they approve the final product, it will be successful. What do you think? Is this real life or is this a joke?Technology has made it real life. The pandemic showed the world that you can work and base operations from anywhere.
Even TM Studios operate this way. Greg is in Dallas, Dave in LA and Chris in England somewhere. -
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