[RjM]

Thanks for posting the session Robin. As others have already said this is a fascinating piece of audio, and the sort of thing I've not heard before. I'd heard the jingles before on the Alfasound CD, but to hear the “making of” gives them another dimension when listening to them again.

Are full sessions quite common then? Can't say I've ever come across them, other than small video clips on here, YouTube, etc. Sean- you mention listening to sessions often, do you have any interesting pieces?

I'd love to hear the full session when having a personal cut sung.

[rsimpkins]

I only had a recording of the session as I dialled in to the JAM studios on ISDN and recorded it in London as they were recorded. Maybe this could be another service for JAM and the others – to make CDs of the recording sessions available!

[Prometheus]

Now that is stunning stuff. Nice one Robin. Really, REALLY enjoyed that!

[jonnoMemberAuthor]

Indeed, it made a most interesting and excellent listen.

Having compressed the audio quite heavily I could listen to it while doing the washing up the other night without having to drip all over the laptop fiddling around with the volume all the time (Made the washing up surprisingly less of a chore than normal too !)

Thanks! I await further treasures from your 'vaults' with baited breath

[IainJohnstonMember]

Must admit I'd be intriqued to ever hear the Studio Session in full from my recent JAM Cut!
(hullo there JMW, are you reading this???!!!)

Especially when they no doubt had to have the singers rehearse how to pronounce my name!
(the final version is great…but I wonder how it “progressed” to that point!)

(I say this as I have all of the studio session from a certain Dallas producer that recently did some
“economy” jingles for me – and NO! I'm definately NOT releasing THAT to the world – it would
probably destroy a few illusions of what a session might really sound like!)

[JAM / PAMSMember]

Wixy1360 wrote: (hullo there JMW, are you reading this???!!!)

I have all of the studio session from a certain Dallas producer that recently did some
“economy” jingles for me – and NO! I'm definately NOT releasing THAT to the world – it would
probably destroy a few illusions of what a session might really sound like!)

1. Obviously, I'm not reading this.

2. How can I put this? Not all producers and sessions are the same. What's done at one place is not necessarily indicative of what's done at another. There, that was fairly polite I thought.

[IainJohnstonMember]

Gosh, Jon, quick response!

Lets just say that the “other” producer is someone “across town” from yourselves, and is indeed “economy”.

In their case, it was a bit weird hearing just how much time and effort(?) and general messing-about occurred in attempting to do even one definately-simple item from a small order (and it WAS the simplest stuff imaginable, rather than a full-blown music bed with 7-singer vocal group!)

With JAM, are the very professional singers you use able in general to “get it right” quite quickly within a handful of “takes”? (“Time is money” in the studio world).

Certainly I know from my own experience of JAM that the vocals, the production standard, everything on the
end-product of a JAM “Personal Cut” is fully up to the same high standard as an identical item for an actual
radio station.:^)

Finally – in this age of “digital production” do things still “end up on the cutting-room floor”, to be
hidden away by the engineer only to be brought back to much embarrassment of the perpetrators
on the annual “Christmas Party Tape” (or its modern equivalent)?!?

[martinlesterMember]

I must say I found this very interesting always great to hear what goes on before the final Jingles hit the Air

Thanks for posting

[Spoons]

Yeh – that was really good – I have a session from the recording of the Trax FM package somewhere.

[rsimpkins]

as an “and finally” – the Dorset Coast FM RSL was designed to a) get the radio authority to advertise a license for Weymouth and Portland, and b) to irritate Wessex FM, who were at the time inducing euthenasia by being as slow and painful as is possible to be without going subsonic.

So, as well as getting a JAM jingle package (whereas the existing Wessex FM package was a cheap Alfasound re-sing which didn't quite work) we had digital playout (Wessex FM was still on cart) we had a 6 line Gentner phone-in system with 6 lines (wessex had 2 lines on 2 TBUs) a radio van (ex LBC Van 2 – a Ford Transit with 30ft mast, fully equipped and broadcasting daily) and most importantly, local presenters. Almost every presenter on Wessex FM was from somewhere else and didn't know the area. Our presenters were all in their late teens to early 30s and we played indie and dance music.

Not being vindictive, we decided to run a promo showing how crap the competition were.

So we did.

Labelled “Mogodon FM” this promo for the breakfast show played once an hour every hour for the last 2 weeks of the RSL.

The quality is crap deliberately to stop this being used all over the place – I tried to enter it for a SONY award in 1998's awards, but it wasn't allowed at the time because we were an RSL. It probably would have won… the more you listen to what he's saying, the funnier it gets.

Credits: John Bolton – Idea and recording. Robin – source material.

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1205776679_11720_FT49754_mogodonfm_original_sml.mp3 filename:mogodonfm_original_sml.mp3

[IainJohnstonMember]

While playing some of Neal's “mp3airchecks” montages that I hadn't looked at for a while, I found
something of which an extract is attached…

But should it be posted in the “Home Town Songs” thread, or “its Nice…”, or the “Clone jingles” one?

According to Neal, this WMJX Boston was a TM effort from some time ago (WIND-y logo), but
the melody sounds very familiar! So who “cloned who”? or does the “tune” have a common origin
before being “jingle-ised”?)

(and apologies if someone spotted this one previously).

[IainJohnstonMember]

Oops – had to re-do in mp3 – JM doesn't like .wma…

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1205962764_75_FT49754_itsnice-or-is-it-tm.mp3 filename:itsnice-or-is-it-tm.mp3

[SeanMartin]

Perhaps there should even be a thread titled “Where are radio station logos born”. I've heard logo audition tapes from JAM and TM for different stations, but then again, how many variations can you muster with 3 or 5 notes? And then there's the writers. Some were commissioned by all the jingle companies in Dallas at one time or another so it would be normal to expect some crossover and similarity between the companies (thinking specifically of Tom Merriman here).

And Ian, simply because it's sitting right in front of my eyes, here's the same jingle you posted that we did for James Proctor from The Magic of Boston package – 1987. It was done for a couple of UK stations and James couldn't resist it. Have you seen the sing-a-long video he did for it? Well worth watching and it's on JM somewhere.

Here ya go . . .

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1205969670_6738_FT49754_magic_cut13_full.mp3 filename:magic_cut13_full.mp3

[IainJohnstonMember]

Thanks San – its not so much the LOGO I meant as the whole darn CUTs! The main lyrics right after the start
of each cut on the TM are the same “refrain” as on the JAM – or vice versa – even the drum pattern sounds
similar. Thats why I wondered if perhaps the whole caboodle might have been derived from something earlier
but non-jingle (classic example – WABC's “seventy-seven” was derived from (and Copyright fees duly paid”)
“I'll Take Manhatten…” or whatever, or WMAQ's TM “Sound of Chicago” Home Town cut “Chicago, Chicago…

True though that the different companies did (and do) hire the best of the freelance singers, writers, etc so
there's always a bit of completely coincidental similarity somewhere ;^)

James Proctor video – yes indeed, still got a copy of that! Personally I think the JAM “versions” are better
than the TM…but I'm biased!

[jonnoMemberAuthor]

found another example of the Its Nice image song!!! yay !

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1214850889_930_FT49754_j-family-radio_s4.mp3 filename:j-family-radio_s4.mp3

[TaterStud]

I just found this – please enjoy

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1214854443_900_FT49754_wash_jam_its_nice.mp3 filename:wash_jam_its_nice.mp3

[Barras]

Excellent upload – thanks for sharing that cut Chris…

Barras

[TaterStud]

No problem…happy to share…and glad you enjoyed!

Chris

[jr2479]

Thanks for the WASH FM cut…a great find!

[nostalgie]

Thanks a lot Robin!!! That was the gift of the day.

***To Wixy 1360*** : I l-o-v-e the song for WMJX New England (MAGIC 106.7 Boston). Would you have, by any chance, a clean version of that jingle? (I mean, the studio quality.) Or, is anybody else able to post it? The melody is really something! Was it heard in the 80's?

Merci!

[IainJohnstonMember]

Thierry, je suis desole, can't help you there – as in my post at the time, the extract was from
an MP3airchecks.com montage – those montages are the excellent work of Neal Bowden,
who still is a regular lurker on JM – might be worth emailing or PM'ing him?

[GlennaMember]

Why do I feel like there might be a Its Nice / Dorset montage coming?
You know like the Z100 / Radio One montages.

[mumoss]

Wixy1360 wrote:
Oops – had to re-do in mp3 – JM doesn't like .wma…

http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1205962764_75_FT49754_itsnice-or-is-it-tm.mp3 filename:itsnice-or-is-it-tm.mp3

It's just clicked what that (excellent) cut reminds me of – Georgy Girl, by The Seekers. The start of it, at least.

No idea whether it was vaguely based on that, or whether my head is just making stupid connections again

[jonnoMemberAuthor]

John, I'd never have made that connection myself, but now you've mentioned it I can hear where you're coming from …

The opening lines are certainly similar..

“New England – you got it all”….”Hey there – Georgy Girl”

[nostalgie]

“The” b-e-s-t jingle I heard in my life! We wish that it goes on and on… Since I've discovered for the first time (a few days ago), it's constantly in my mind! “Doctor, what should I do?”

[Author]

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