“Independent Local Radio”

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  • #100015
    jonno
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      #100017
      GrahamCollins

        Haha – excellent, thanks John.

        I sadly missed all the buzz about the new ‘All Strings Attached’ episodes, so I’m looking forward to getting lost in memory lane once someone agrees a fee to air them.

        #100018
        professor1036

          Looks like the original crowd funding project was scrapped, and a new scaled back (Radio Victory only) campaign set up https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/unique-local-radio-station-for-portsmouth#/
          but after two months, and only £571 pledged, I think this project will not see the light of day.

          I’ve been monitoring people/groups using the crowdfunding methods to fund radio projects and in my opinion the jury is still out. A community station is also raising money by that method as well and is considerably short of the full amount so far, so I await to see if they hit the target. Maybe the train of thought of listeners funding radio projects is still a way off yet?

          I have thought about crowdfunding to get Skylab back on, but even though the amount to get the stream back up and running would be considerably less than Invicta/Tees/Beacon or even the community station…I’m still unsure whether I could raise it.

          Much to ponder on…

          #100707
          jonno
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            Use of all jingle packages that will be heard across the revived stations have been negotiated with Steve England and David Arnold.

            Now looks like who ever’s behind this is now offering full packages for some of their proposed stations for sale as digital downloads on Ebay. Hmm

            http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/uk_radio_jingles/m.html?item=252561122011&ul_noapp=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

            #100709
            GrahamCollins

              Mmmm – does anyone have Simon Prentice’s number ?

              #100710
              rak
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                Some were David Arnold packages, weren’t they? Anyone got his number as well?

                #100711
                IainJohnston

                  Just looked at the page – I don’t see the new so-called “ILR” “stations” packages there, just some 1980s Alfa and Arnold packages supposedly in full – and some of which I’d actually would like to have had, but there’s no idea of audio quality on his “digital downloads” links.

                  I note he’s only been a seller since 26th September. Hmmmmm……

                  #100713
                  IanF

                    I think Simon and David, with other producers, do look on this site. How could they not with all this passion about their jingles a click away :)

                    #100736
                    cambrensis

                      Just looked at the page – I don’t see the new so-called “ILR” “stations” packages there, just some 1980s Alfa and Arnold packages supposedly in full – and some of which I’d actually would like to have had, but there’s no idea of audio quality on his “digital downloads” links.

                      I note he’s only been a seller since 26th September. Hmmmmm……

                      I’m on to the purchase of my 18th COMPLETE jingle package this week from this ebay site! The quality is excellent. It’s great to hear all the cuts from many classic Alfasound and David Arnold packages. There is even a Sue Manning package on offer.

                      #100737
                      IainJohnston

                        “The quality is excellent!”

                        WAV or mp3?

                        #100738
                        gameswizard
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                          WAV or mp3?

                          The description of each listing states “mastered as a 320 kbps mp3 file at 44.1 kHz stereo”.

                          #100739
                          IainJohnston

                            Apologies GW – I hadn’t read far enough into the “seller’s” pages…

                            e.g. ….

                            “This listing is for a digital download of the full radio station jingle package produced in 1986 for Guildford’s County Sound. The package was the station’s second to be produced by Britain’s leading jingle production company, Alfasound. The broadcast quality package contains all cuts and has an overall running time of 60′ 01”, mastered as a 320 kbps mp3 file at 44.1 kHz stereo. Total file size is 137MB.

                            After purchase, we will send a link to allow you to download the file you have ordered. We own the UK trademarks to several ‘heritage’ UK radio station names (including County Sound) and we are proposing to re-launch County Sound and other stations as part of a city-specific network of localised radio stations in 2017. We have secured the rights to use this jingle package and have decided to release a limited number of copies to jingle collectors to help raise funds for our crowdfunding bid to allow us to realise the project.

                            We have secured the rights to use this jingle package on our planned station; we are offering them for sale on the specific condition that they will not be re-sold, broadcast, copied or otherwise distributed, irrespective of whether this is to other jingle collectors – if they want a copy they are welcome to order one!

                            We will be listing audio CD versions of this jingle package soon, because we are new to Ebay we have decided to try digital downloads as we need to increase our feedback rating and this method of delivery will allow us to do so.”

                            “Mastered” and “320 kbps mp3” are an oxymoron to me.
                            The “sampling rate” makes it “sound technically authentic” but its like someone doing a “cut & paste” job without necessarily knowing what it all means – and I’ve seen plenty of that in industry over the years.

                            This all sounds very “murky” to me.
                            Does this gentleman live in Doncaster? [ ;^) ]

                            I make no further comment about this whole “project”.

                            #100740
                            GrahamCollins

                              I refer the honorable member to the second post in this thread…….

                              #100746
                              rak
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                                A lot of us on here have built up a collection of packages over the years, much of it these days in top quality and hard to get hold of.

                                Would we stick it on Ebay? No. Would that p*ss off the people who’d given it to us? Yes.

                                #100762
                                mclstudios

                                  This quote from the Invicta Sound one tells a bit more..

                                  “The mastering project was undertaken specifically for us by David Arnold and these are a valuable asset of our company; we are offering them for sale on the specific condition that they will not be re-sold, broadcast, copied or otherwise distributed, irrespective of whether this is to other jingle collectors – if they want a copy they are welcome to order one!”

                                  So if that’s the case, then it may well be all above board and legal.

                                  #101278
                                  enerjee

                                    Yes this will be ex Mercia Sound jock Andy Lloyd……

                                    I doubt very much if it’s the same Andy Lloyd from Mercia Sound. The one behind this was, according to his profile, born in 1964 the Mercia Andy Lloyd would have been about 5 years older than that. Here’s what I found:

                                    http://www.cbetta.com/director/andrew-paul-lloyd-4

                                    “Andrew Paul Lloyd (6/12/1964) from an address in Nottingham.

                                    Andrew has a load of “radio” type companies behind him, none seem to have actually traded:

                                    KCBC Limited
                                    Mercia Sound Radio Limited
                                    Beacon Radio Limited
                                    Derwent Sound Limited
                                    independent Radio PLC (another one)
                                    Trent FM Limited
                                    Centre Radio Network Limited
                                    NRG Radio Limited

                                    One that did trade:

                                    07619175
                                    Trent Sound Limited, 301 Coventry Road, Bulwell, NG6 8LU
                                    Dissolved 14/7/15 – Picked up a £960 CCJ in October 2014. Accounts show that it spent a lot of money of Jet Tec Printer Ink, and had some S2Blue ID’s done.”

                                    All public record. The London address (Heritage Radio) on his website is around the corner from where I live, so I’ll check it out.

                                    #101279
                                    enerjee

                                      More on Andy Lloyd from Mercia Sound. The picture is in the above website is blurred and obscures his face of the said Andy Lloyd, but the Mercia Andy Lloyd was 23-years-old in the photo on the link below in 1980 when Mercia began (having trained as a lawyer previously) and had worked at UBN just before:

                                      http://www.kps.org.uk/mercia/people/andy_lloyd.htm

                                      Incidentally, there’s some great jingles on that Mercia Sound nostalgia website too !

                                      #101280
                                      jonno
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                                        Taken from Independent Local Radio’s Facebook pages (on 1st March 2017) for their various proposed radio services (eg https://www.facebook.com/radiovictory)

                                        “Since announcing our outline plans, we have faced legal challenges from all the major radio networks – we are legally prevented from revealing the nature and outcome of these matters, save to say that we are still here. We are currently engaged in what we hope will be our final battle, currently before a Tribunal at the Intellectual Property Office. This action – which we expect to win – is preventlng us from moving forward but is expected to be resolved within the next few months. We had hoped that it would have been resolved much sooner, but the various legal challenges and High Court action has delayed this; we will post again when our future is clearer. In the meantime, for those interested, keep the faith!”

                                        #101281
                                        IainJohnston

                                          As has been discussed from day 1 on the gentleman’s “plans”, here and on other forums, “everyone knows” that any
                                          attempt to use heritage station/company names that are still extant and owned by the people who bought the stations
                                          that bought the companies that bought the companies……..and STILL have them registered even if “dormant” in
                                          trading terms, was going to be something that was going to be a legal (Intellectual Property) problem later.
                                          (Even “The Voice of Ipswich” I offer as a test case M’Lud…)

                                          Sorry to say it (again), but it was nice to get the “new” jingles, but the actual “radio stations project” as envisaged
                                          as a non-broadcast “radio service” is a total dead duck (and how can it be “localised radio” if its all going to
                                          come to the “other areas” from Nottingham (didn’t his/his family’s previous “station” there fold, as indicated above?)

                                          He’d have been better to try for a community licence on small scale DAB trials somewhere as a pilot; but seeing
                                          how many CR stations are increasingly collapsing by the day, I think even that now would be beyond redemption.

                                          I’ll wager 5p that the “office address” mentioned above will be a mailbox above a kebab shop…
                                          ;^)

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