[jingle fan]

Hi Guys,

I have got all my tracks (mostly 70' & 80's)and jingles on my laptop in “Music media player”. I want to simply play a track with a jingle overlaping, then another track coming in and overlaping that all at the same level so you can't spot the join. I am a novice at this sort of thing and found an editing suite but it would not export all of my tracks out of MMP. As a friend has let me borrow a CD recorder I thought although long winded I could play the MMP and adjust the overlap manually as I recorded onto a blank disc in real time. This worked and sounded fine through the headphones but when I played it back on a CD deck each track sounded at a different volumn/quality and there was a fade out fade in of track/jingle/track. Oh forgot to say I connected from the out socket of laptop to a mixer then to CD recorder.

So can any of you guys suggest for a simpleton like myself an easy download of an editing suite that might be quicker and save the files at one level and play like you would hear on the radio. I know that when you guys do montages that you don't get this problem and they sound brill. I am not looking for plenty of features just the basic mixing. I have back up copies of audio files but they have a gap between tracks when I burn them.

I hope this doesn't sound too daft a question and I apologise from going away from the subject of jingles.

[nostalgie]

Hello Jingle Fan,

To do what you want (regarding the consistency of the sound), you need an multibands processor.

If your audio files are not too big, you can send to me in a .zip document, then I'll process those for you and send it back tomorrow morning, GMT-5. Here's my address: thierrylaflamme@gmail.com

About mixing, I would highly recommend Cool Edit Pro.

[jingle fan]

Hello Thierry,
Thanks for the advice. I will “Google” multibands processor and have a look. Thank you very much for your kind offer but I have over 80 playlists which including jingles is has about 50 different items on each one.

John

[nostalgie]

Oh, I understand now… I thought you had just a few cuts for a montage.

But still, could you send me your e-mail address? I'll try to help you with this matter in another way.
It will make things easier for you, believe me. thierrylaflamme@gmail.com

[rsimpkins]

There's a free multitrack mixing programme (similar to Cool Edit Pro / Audobe Audition) called Audacity – you can mix your audio in that and save it as a file. A tip though, don't mix on headphones, mix on speakers, and trust your ears. If you then want to process the audio (compression may not make your audio sound better) there's a free processor called MBL4.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ (Audacity)

http://www.burnill.co.uk/downloads.html (MBL4)

if you haven't used multitrack software before, take your time trying to learn it. You won't do it in just a few minutes.

I look forward to hearing your montages!

[jingle fan]

Email sent, please let me know if not received. Thanks Thierry

[jingle fan]

Thanks for that Robin. Thought I had it sussed with something called Toast9, but it's only for macs. I did think of itunes.

[nostalgie]

I'll get back to you in a few minutes. (Sorry… I was watching The American Music Awards. )

[GrahamCollins]

iTunes does allow you to sequence audio files with a crude segueway or overlap at each junction but it will crop the front off each new track so is probably best avoided.

Most of the serious people here use Adobe Audition/Cool Edit Pro for mixing and Nero for absolute control in burning CDs. Both are broadcast industry standards and can be bought online and downloaded for relatively little money. Copies of Cool Edit Pro are on eBay at the moment for $30.

Why waste your time and money learning to use pretender software when you could be learning to use the real thing ? Audition is without doubt the best piece of software I have ever bought. I use it EVERY day and it has never let me down.

[jingle fan]

I know what you mean Chalks about itunes. I am very wary of Apple products. With Windows media player you can get great timed overlaps but at the end of each jingle/track and the beginning of the next the sound dips down. I appreciate your advice and help and will look at your suggestions. Cheers

[gameswizardMember]

Chalks wrote:
Audition is without doubt the best piece of software I have ever bought.

i agree.and i only paid £5 for mine.

[GrahamCollins]

I think I can sort of beat that Mike

My first copy of Cool Edit was on a freebie CD given away with a computer magazine. Although it was the lite version you could still use all the editing functions but had to store it at each stage as it would only allow you to use two tools at a time.

I was hooked and eventually paid about £25 for Cool Edit 2000 and then upgraded to Audition 1.0 when Adobe bought Syntrillium.

Is version 1.5 much different do you know ? Worth upgrading ?

GC

[rsimpkins]

It depends what you do with it – I have Audition 1.0 but have used later versions which are just slightly tweaked with different skins – and unless you're into serious labour intensive production even the full version of Cool Edit Pro 1.0 is more than enough for most people. I have several multitrack packages, Cool Edit Pro 1.0, Adobe Audition 1.0, Sony BMS, Audacity, Cubase 4 – and they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I can honestly say that Sony BMS is far better and faster for mixing packages for news, which is why BBC News SMs use it in preference to Adobe Audition to mix material filed from reporters in the field to get stuff on-air within minutes. And if you're on a budget and don't need a lot of features (who here has used “Convulsion” in Audition) Audacity is ideal, it's supplied to BBC news technical producers for use on laptops in the field and comes up trumps time after time.

While I would say that Adobe Audition is right for me to use at home, having been a sound engineer for 25 years, I wouldn't discourage people just starting out in mixing from using free
packages like Audacity, because they are actually rather good.

I'd rather have people mixing and balancing their audio properly on Audacity than some of the complete dogs breakfasts we get on here from time to time where you spend the whole time reaching for the volume control…

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