[DJ]

Hi

I have decided that its time to transfer all my old jingle tapes to a digital domain and think that Cool Edit will do the job for me

I have a few questions for the Cool Edit Pro experts

1 Is this software easy to use

2 Any plus or minus points I need to consider ?

3 Will this software help clean up old tapes ?

4 Best place to get hold of this (I have already looked on ebay -No Luck)

Thanks

Martin

[DavidHemsley]

Very doubtful you’ll be able to get a new copy of Cool Edit Pro (or any other edition of Cool Edit) – Adobe bought Syntrillium last year and now markets it as Adobe Audition

[TomF]

1 Is this software easy to use

It’s like anything in life, you learn as you go on. But, comparing it to some of the other audio editing software on the market, (pro tools, cubase, reason) yes, its easy to use.

2 Any plus or minus points I need to consider ?

Will it be of any more use to you? I would imagine there is a cheaper editer out there, if your only going to use it the once is it really worth the money?

On a plus, it does come with built in presets for cleaning up pop’s and clicks and so on, however, i recomend you listen carefully to it after you have made a chance, as it can tend to make mistakes. Get used to it, customise the settings.

3 Will this software help clean up old tapes ?

Again, yes, read above. It can help.

4 Best place to get hold of this (I have already looked on ebay -No Luck)

Try post a request on forums like these, for second hand copy’s of adobe audition/cool edit pro (make sure your not breaking any forum rules though first) Or, get yourself over to http://www.adobe.com/products/audition/

Hope this helps, any other questions feel free to post.

[DavidHemsley]

For what it’s worth, all the audio on Jingle Ark has gone through Cool Edit/Audition in one way or another.

[DevawebMember]

1 Is this software easy to use

Yes, very. But can also be very advanced as your skills grow. Having somewhere where you can ask questions is good – I’d recommend the Adobe forums, along with industry places such as Media UK and here.

2 Any plus or minus points I need to consider ?

If you’re editing wav files (better than MP3 quality-wise, then just convert to MP3 at the end if you’ve putting stuff online) then you’ll need a fair sized hard disc.

3 Will this software help clean up old tapes ?

It can do, yes.

4 Best place to get hold of this (I have already looked on ebay -No Luck)

At the minute, with the exchange rate being so good, a fully new licensed version from Adobe is only around £160 or so – Tom gave the address above. Failing that, no doubt someone who doesn’t use it any more would be willing to flog their copy – might be worth putting a plea on MUK, UKRadio etc.

If you’ve got any more queries, bung em up here!

Regards,

Chris

(Daily user of CEP since 1999, now starting to play wiyh Pro Tools a bit)

Thanks

Martin

[Markie]

Hey everyone,

thought i’d add my little bit here as well,

been using CEP for ages since the early versions and i would recommend getting hold of one of the later versions 2.0 or the last revision 2.1 (b4 adobe got hold of it) as there were serveral improvements over earlier versions the least of which was the overall look!

I go with ‘deva’ on that it can be as complicated or as simple as you make it to a degree but it will grow with you as you get more advanced and version 2.1 has overlays for many external desks such as Mackie Master Control which is the one i personally use and combined with this its turns into a fantastic tool without some of the tech involvement needed with protools etc but ofcourse there are limitations as with any software.

I’m sure if you look on the net with a bit of persistance you will find a copy for sale and it will clean up most bad recordings pretty quickly but its def worth playing around with the parameters that you can adjust.

wish ya luck,
markie

[DavidHemsley]

Of course, no one has mentioned that great institution that is Kazaa yet – purely for research purposes, of course. 😳

Found quite a few jingles on there actually . . . .

[UKJinglesMember]

DJ wrote: Hi

I have decided that its time to transfer all my old jingle tapes to a digital domain and think that Cool Edit will do the job for me

I have a few questions for the Cool Edit Pro experts

1 Is this software easy to use

2 Any plus or minus points I need to consider ?

3 Will this software help clean up old tapes ?

4 Best place to get hold of this (I have already looked on ebay -No Luck)

Thanks

Martin

Hi Martin,

E-mail me at pete@pete-wilson.net and I’m sure I can be of assistance!

Regards,

Pete.

[GrahamCollins]

For what you’re planning you don’t need to even go as far as CEP – I started with Cool Edit 97 from a computer magazine CD in demo form – you’re welcome to this disc if you want gratis.

The restriction is only being able to have two types of processing available in one session. So you have to keep saving your work as you go (no bad thing) and re-opening the program – but it’s free and you learn to live with it.

It wasn’t long before I had to have the full monty and now use it every day.

Regards

[JingleMadMember]

Following on from the above recommendations, I would agree that CEP is not necessarily the best way to go if all you want to do is transfer tape to digital. There’s the issue of cost, and then the learning curve. But there’s also another important aspect and that’s the sound card setup.
If you want your transfers to be of optimal quality, with as little quality-loss as possible make sure your setup is tailored to this.
A point-by-point checklist can be found here:

http://www.blazeaudio.com/howto/lp-overview.html

Do I need to remind you to clean the heads on the tape deck between tapes? Old tapes shed oxide which will deteriorate the transfer quality.
You’ll find lots of detailed advice on the Adobe/Support/Forums/Audition pages.
If you’ve got Nero on your PC, you’ll find there’s a wave editor included.
You can clean-up and denoise at a later date, if you want – that’s the part that’s REALLY time-consuming.
Avoid saving to mp3 on your HD – try and free as much HD space and save as .wav – again to avoid any loss in the quality.
Backup to CD after each tape.
Only use VERBATIM CD-R. They are the most resistant to damage (scratches).

http://www.KenR.com also does this professionally using state of the art noise reduction software. $$$$$
. . . and that’s my 2 cents worth!!
-Sean

[DavidHemsley]

petewilson wrote: Hi Martin,

E-mail me at pete@pete-wilson.net and I’m sure I can be of assistance!

Regards,

Pete.

LOL – you’re always asking ME for help !!!

There are some good tutorials at http://www.bbctraining.com/radio.asp – very useful

[UKJinglesMember]

I didn’t mean THAT kind of “Assistance” DH!! 😉

[DJ]

Thanks for all the replys

This has been very helpful

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Thanks

Martin

[topcat]

>> Is this software easy to use

Yes… but you don’t need the Pro version to just transfer tapes. 64 tracks of audio can be overkill (and it made my computer choke). You might consider the CoolEdit 2000 edition, if you can find it.

>> Will this software help clean up old tapes ?

Yes… but I’d recommend saving a copy of the straight transfer to CD before you go screwing around with noise reduction, etc. You can always go back to this original, if need be. Once it’s altered — it’s altered for life!

All of the digital production I do is in one or more versions of CoolEdit.

-TC

[JingleMadMember]

Just wondered if anyone can help me with this question about CEP.

Apparently it`s feasible to record “streaming” radio audio from the internet via CEP – which creates a WAV file and is saved to the HD. If this is possible – how do you do it ?

At the moment I record “streaming” radio by sticking an output lead from the PC sound-card into a Long Play Minidisk recorder.

David (Music K & JAM fan)

[BrammyMember]

It is definitely possible because I have done it.

The way I did it was pretty easy but you need a soundcard that allows recording from a source named ‘What U Hear’.

Simply select this by going to the drop down ‘Options’ menu in CEP and selecting Windows Recording Mixer…

Once you have the Recording Control box open you need to go in to properties and find the option that says ‘Show the following volume controls’, there should be a list that includes ‘What U Hear’. Check this and then close the box. Select ‘What U Hear’ in the recording control and alter the volume to suit.

You can then set your streaming audio going in any application and simply record ‘What U Hear’ with CEP in the same way as you would with any other input source.

Just be aware that this will do exactly what it says and record ‘What U Hear’ so if you decide to open another program or folder and this creates a beep or anything then it WILL be recorded by CEP.

This also works with sites that use flash, such as Bespoke Music. You can record the flash audio in the same way. Of course the quality isn’t too good and I find using SWF extractor a lot easier for that task.

I hope that wasn’t too confusing!!! If it was drop me an e-mail and we’ll take it from there.

All the best.

Liam.

[mbMember]

I do it the same way as above I’ve got a Turtle Beach soundcard.
I do it slightly differently by going into the Sound Card controls and selecting the Recording source. on My PC “What you Hear” is “Stereo Mix”.

If you are recording off reelworld ( hypothetically ) be careful of the button beeps which are also recorded if you start one button before the previous track has completed.

[thebeeb]

Also ensure that the fader is not turned up to the max as it will distort. The 2nd level down is the loudest that it should go to and ensure that the volume on the tape player isn’t turned up to the max otherwise it will distort and sound crap.

[GrahamCollins]

Yep I pretty much do the same too.

I use a laptop with XP pro and use the on board windows mixer to feed sound straight in to Cool Edit or Adobe Audition as I must learn to call it now and it works fine. Practise makes perfect.

My sound card is a Roland UA-30 connected via USB and this initially conflicted with the on board intel audio facility but pulling out the cable seemed to do the trick !

Don’t forget Cool Edit 2000 users can upgrade to Audition for just $99 – a bargain with the current exchange rate.

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