[DrachenSachen]

Sites such as Reelworld and GrooveAddicts now offer online streaming via Flash/Shockwave insead of MP3’s. Well I have just cracked how to convert them.

Firstly click on the demo you wish to hear and let it stream/download fully, then go into your Temporary Internet Files and click to refresh. Find the file .swf file associated with your download (i.e. fulldemo http://www.reelworld.com/demos/chrpop/z_100_03/lq/fulldemo.swf SHOCKWAVE FLASH) and copy this file to your chosen location.

Secondly download a program called SWF Extractor 2.2 from http://www.globfx.com/

Lastly, install the program, open your .swf file and click on Extract. Your flash demo will now be converted into MP3/WAV.

[DrachenSachen]

http://www.19.5degs.com/swfextractor.php

This is a free swf extractor program and works better

[reelSteve]

rename the .swf to .mp3 and boom!

downloaded files are rewritten while streamed to include your logged IP address so take care with the files!

Steve Thomas
Electronic security minister
ReelWorld

[DAS]

So that means we CAN download them as long as we don’t do anything stupid or CANNOT?!

[DavidHemsley]

Easiest thing to do is record direct into cool edit or sound recorder while playing.

It amazes me that jingle companies are putting such measures into place, ie, ip logging . . . what do they thingjcollectors do with these things? I’ve been collecting since 1976 and no one has ever offered to sell me jingles they’ve collected, nor do I know of any collectors that cut demo’s up and use the cuts on air or for anything else really . . . . so why are companies so possessive of what is, in many cases, a sub standard product?

[BrammyMember]

I agree totally!

It’s not like there are 50 stations named Z100 or WPLJ that could use the things on air. The thing is, they let people in radio have the very same demo’s on CD free of charge anyway.

Most jingle collectors are happy to pay a nominal charge for CD’s but some companies don’t even do that anymore. At the other end of the scale are companies like TM who have loads of demo’s in MP3 format on their site.

To actually come on this forum and basically try and worry us that grabbing the swf files could be dangerous is ridiculous.

Anyway, back down off my soapbox and into bed!!

[danjamesuk]

In reelSteve’s defence, perhaps he was warning people about converting other material available on the web, ie copyrighted original artist music? To me, the post seemed too helpful (with advice on renaming files) to be interpreted as anything even remotely threatening!

[BrammyMember]

With a title like ‘Electronic Security Minister’ I’m very sceptical.

Looks to me like the decision to use flash instead of mp3 on their site may well have been down to him?!?

[DevawebMember]

I think the title was a little tongue in cheek! For more similar humour check out their website contacts and their demos.

[Welshjingler]

You can save the files from Music4 as well!

When you’ve pressed the MP3 button on the demo you selected, wait for the player to pop up. On the play bar, right-click the mouse and choose properties, the link address will be shown. Copy it and enter it as a normal website address and BOOM it’s downloaded and saved in seconds. I use RealOne and it automatically downloads the file, not sure about any others.

What David said is the easiest way but when a package is 5 or 10 minutes it can drag.

Gaz

[DavidHemsley]

Hello –

Just to set the record straight . . . I wasn’t having a go at Steve himself – just the industry in general and the way it has always seemed to be towards collectors.

[BrammyMember]

If anyone has any contacts at production companies, I’d be interested to hear their thoughts on the matter, and why mp3 is available at some sites and not others.

There must be some sort of reasoning behind it, other than the companies thinking we are going to breach their copyright?!?

[UKJinglesMember]

Does it really matter what format Jingle companies present their Jingles?
Its certainly a lot easier to hear them then 10 or 20 years ago….
When if you were “lucky” you could get them to send you a Demo through the post!
We are spoilt for choice nowadays and I personally thank all the Jingle houses who are good enough to present THEIR latest work “On-Line”
Take REELWORLD and MUSIC 4… Demo’s “on-line” within 24 hours of the packages going “Live” !!!

Well Done!

Pete.

[DavidHemsley]

you missed my point entirely, Pete.

[reelSteve]

Gentleman,

I was joking. We don’t log IP addresses, nor am I against collectors having copies of our jingle demos. We use flash because the possibilities for presentation are much more creative and interactive. There are enough safeguards to prevent people actually stealing and re-broadcasting that we are not concerned about locking up our MP3 demos.

Enjoy all of our demos freely!

Best,
Steve Thomas

[DAS]

LOL, a man with a sense of humour! Although it did come across as slightly frightening…

[kcmike]

If there’s ANY company with a sense of humor, its ReelWorld. Just listen to their demo’s – they’re hilarious!

Kudos, RW, on your ’04 packages!

[oznetradio]

I tried out the swf extractor, but it distorts the audio. This feature is lifted when you purchase the product. I also tried out the other free swf program but it did not work. If anyone is successfully using either program could you please do me a BIG favor and send me the 2004 Z-100 shotguns from Reelworld’s website in MP3 format? Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Please drop me a line:

oznetradio@yahoo.com.au

Thanks,

Dave
Australia

[BrammyMember]

Does anyone know if the mp3 files that are extracted from the swf files should be stereo or mono?

I have been playing about with swf extractor (registered version) but I am only getting mono mp3 files. The sound quality is pretty good, just mono!

[oznetradio]

Brammy,

I’m not sure if thet should be in mono or stero, but I’d gladly accept mono versions. Any chance you can help me out please.

– Dave

[BrammyMember]

In answer to my own question regarding mono and stereo files….

It appears to depend on how the file is put on to the flash site originally.

I extracted the Z100 2004 shotguns from Reelworld and they were mono. I have just done the same with the real radio cuts at Bespoke and they have extracted as stereo.

Maybe it’s a case of server space?

P.S. Has anyone noticed how slow the mp3 downloads are at bespoke. I have a 2mb cable connection and was only getting 10kbps instead of the usual 256kbps!

[DAS]

Incidentally, does anyone know when the new audio will be added to the Bespoke Music site? It says new audio is in the process of being put up on the site on the news page, and the site hasn’t been updated for mooonnnths now.

[coolnt]

DavidHemsley wrote: Easiest thing to do is record direct into cool edit or sound recorder while playing.

It amazes me that jingle companies are putting such measures into place, ie, ip logging . . . what do they thingjcollectors do with these things? I’ve been collecting since 1976 and no one has ever offered to sell me jingles they’ve collected, nor do I know of any collectors that cut demo’s up and use the cuts on air or for anything else really . . . . so why are companies so possessive of what is, in many cases, a sub standard product?

question: has anybody been convicted yet of illegally ripping jingle demos up and used them on air?

i can still remember the Z World intro, with Gary and Ross fussing over college studes fabricating fake airchecks and use them on school radio “pretending to be weekends” at Z100.

i was just wondering, since this is a big legal thing for jingle cos, about copyright issues. what do they do with caught freaks using jingle demos for broadcast?

[coolnt]

DavidHemsley wrote: Easiest thing to do is record direct into cool edit or sound recorder while playing.

It amazes me that jingle companies are putting such measures into place, ie, ip logging . . . what do they thingjcollectors do with these things? I’ve been collecting since 1976 and no one has ever offered to sell me jingles they’ve collected, nor do I know of any collectors that cut demo’s up and use the cuts on air or for anything else really . . . . so why are companies so possessive of what is, in many cases, a sub standard product?

question: has anybody been convicted yet of illegally ripping jingle demos up and used them on air?

i can still remember the Z World intro, with Gary and Ross fussing over college studes fabricating fake airchecks and use them on school radio “pretending to be weekends” at Z100.

i was just wondering, since this is a big legal thing for jingle cos, about copyright issues. what do they do with caught freaks using jingle demos for broadcast?

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