[Steve Scotland]

A Mr Marco Bolli of Scunthorpe has set up a company called Alfasound Creative Ltd (nice, eh?)
He is selling what he alleges are Alfasound & JAM CDs on e Bay, the packages supposedly taken from the master tapes. Having been stupid enough to purchase some, I do not believe they are the genuine article There are various clues, such as Sun FM '97 being shown as Copyright 1992 and Orchard FM being shown as Oarchard FM. The inlay cards are clearly scanned.

I have some original Alfasound JAM ILR CDs and I doubt their authenticity.

PLEASE AVOID THESE LIKE THE PLAGUE. ~

[IainJohnstonMember]

A web search found this link to “Alfasound Creative Ltd”…

http://www.webservicesuk.co.uk

and it does appear to be a registered Limited
Company…, and is a “trading STyle” of Webservices…

Here's the Companies House registration…

http://www.duport.co.uk/coresult.asp?ACT=L&T=E

and his Directors entry, with postcode…

http://www.duport.co.uk/coresult.asp?ACT=L&T=I

I'm a “Sole Trader” – and I know that I can't legally infringe Copyright by doing what he's doing – if I could I'd be making a VERY healthy profit!

Even if a Company folds, Mechanical Copyright and other forms of Copyright on Music in particular can
still be extant for 50 years and more even after the original Registrant of a Copyrighted item isn't there to
object to infringement (ask any Primary School that has organised a Christmas Musical then had an
official at the door saying they can't sing whatever song because its still under Copyright since 19-canteen).

Anyone tempted to pay the £9-95 fee to get to read his/their Company Reports (which are mandatory
for a Limited Company operating completely legally under HMRC rules?)

How exactly would he declare his “receipted sales” of allegedly bootleg CDs
on his annual Accounts?
And would his Accountant be legally an accessory to alleged theft of intellectual
property by signing-off those said Accounts?

What bugs me Steve is that what you said in your Post I'm sure somebody once
warned about before, almost word for word!

Update….
Mr England of S2Blue and Mr Wolfert of JAM might want to look at this webpage,
and also note that the addresses of various “clients” of WebservicesUK all seem to
be incredibly similar…

http://www.topdeck.co.uk/shop/Jingles.html

[IainJohnstonMember]

And of course, here's Mr Bolli's own personal site,
complete with a fetching photo of himself as
“Fat Boy Ginge”…

http://www.marcobollionline.co.uk/

Update:
The dupont Companies House search links above expire after
a few minutes, but plugging-in the appropriate trading name
and Director name to the boxes on the Dupont Site Do lead
to the targets described.

[Prometheus]

For those of you interested:
Diane, Michelle and Marco Bolli
Alfasound Creative Ltd
41 LANCASTER ROAD
ASHBY
SCUNTHORPE
DN16 3JL

The company was formed in 2004 and is currently “dormant” (meaning that they have not filed accounts (since March 2005), where they showed assets of £700).

Hope that's of use.

D

[Steve Scotland]

Thanks for your support guys. I now realise the Cds are simply dubs of the cassette demos which Alfasound put out. Complete with wow and hiss.
The CDs are allegedly from Master Tapes, which I know they aren't.
What annoys me most is not the financial cost but people “ripping off” Jon Wolfert, a totally honest business man. Do people have no integrity or regard for copyright any more?

[WYVN]

While I would in no way wish to condone the breach of copyright in the instances cited, personally I don't regard it as being any worse than entering into trades with certain users of this website and find them failing to honour their part of the trade.

For example, I entered into a trade 12 months ago with a prolific contributor of this site, in all good faith, and still that person has not sent the promised material even after repeated reminders and promises from them that it will be 'in the post tomorrow!'

While I agree with the content of this thread, it would be a shame if we concern ourselves with the activities of others and not get our own house in order first.

In the end both issues are about a matter of respect for others, whether it be the copyright relating to their creative talents or honouring agreements between members.
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[Steve Scotland]

What irritates me about jingle collectors is they believe the jingles belong to them and they think they can buy trade or sell as they please.

Can I drive your car, live in your house, eat your food etc? No.

Could we stick to the original thread please? If you want to criticise other memebers please start a new “whinge”.

[WYVN]

Steve Scotland wrote:
What irritates me about jingle collectors is they believe the jingles belong to them and they think they can buy trade or sell as they please.

Can I drive your car, live in your house, eat your food etc? No.

Could we stick to the original thread please? If you want to criticise other memebers please start a new “whinge”.

Just highlighting the different ways people can feel they are being 'ripped off', whether it be through purchasing or trading.

If sharing jingles is objectionable, should there be a 'download' section on this site in that case?

[DevawebMember]

I'd imagine that most posters would think that there's a difference between sharing jingles (most of which aren't on sale by the original companies) and actually selling dubs for cash. It moves the hobby into a dangerous area.

For example, TM could theoretically crack down on users swapping our jingles, however we turn a blind eye to it all because it doesn't really do us any harm. However, if someone started selling unofficial dubs, I don't think we'd be too happy!

[IainJohnstonMember]

I don't personally want to enter into the “pros & cons”
of whether “trading” rip-offs are similar to Copyright
infringement or not.

However – the deliberate PROMOTION for SALE and
actual SALE thereof of registered Copyrighted material
for personal/business financial gain without being entitled
to do so is actually a form of THEFT.

Pure & simple.

Update:-

For anyone who might wish to study the subject in a bit more detail,
and also delve further into the world of IP (Intellectual Property)
Rights, here's a website thats worth perusing!…

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/copy/c-applies/c-music.htm

[MiniMikey]

There is also http://www.alfasound.biz doing the same thing

[martinlesterMember]

£700 in a year for selling Rip Off's of the alfasound / Jam Jingles

he has been doing this also on Ebay for years but Ebay continue to let him trade !

Last year Several of us Purchased the Master Refrence Reels we could have easly fooded the market with them and by now Mr Bolli would have got his hands on them but we have all kept to our agreement

Myself and Nicky Schiller who purchased about 80% of the tapes could have done the same as him but I feel among true collectors there is a certain standard that most of us keep to

In all my years of Trading I have only had 1 person that I could not trust

The Bigest Problem is both Steve England and Jon Wolfert are so busy they don't have the time to chase after him
same as Ray Anderson who for years who has been selling the PAMS material on CD via his company Jumbo Records

[IainJohnstonMember]

“Last year Several of us Purchased the Master Refrence Reels we could have easly flooded the market with them…among true collectors there is a certain standard that most of us keep to”

Well said Martin! and as someone who indeed bought a set of Steve England Alfa Master Tapes (in superb quality) I know I could have abused that privilege – but I haven't.

What is blatant about Mr Bolli is that he even LISTS the
JAM Song amongst his offerings!

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