BBC Radio 1 – The Pepper Tanner cuts

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  • #1781
    nigel

      Now here’s a tough one. We all know how good Pams/Jams were for R1 but does anyone have a clean set of the Pepper Tanner “It’s what’s happening” series that R1(and R2) used in the late 60’s or early 70’s please? I’ve been after them for years and if someone can post them, then others may realise how good P/T were – These were just dynamite, full of energy.
      R1 also had some cuts, around the same time I think, which sounded like an electronic door bell effect (naff description but I can’t think of anything else) and they had lines like “Good time, happy sound of music” and “With the soulful sound”. Does anyone have these or know what they were please.

      Thanks,
      Nigel.

      #15247
      UKJingles
      Member

        nigel wrote: Now here’s a tough one. We all know how good Pams/Jams were for R1 but does anyone have a clean set of the Pepper Tanner “It’s what’s happening” series that R1(and R2) used in the late 60’s or early 70’s please? I’ve been after them for years and if someone can post them, then others may realise how good P/T were – These were just dynamite, full of energy.
        R1 also had some cuts, around the same time I think, which sounded like an electronic door bell effect (naff description but I can’t think of anything else) and they had lines like “Good time, happy sound of music” and “With the soulful sound”. Does anyone have these or know what they were please.

        Thanks,
        Nigel.

        Yeah they’re also PEPPER TANNER Nigel !
        Can be found on my Jingle Trading List at http://www.pete-wilson.net

        #15248
        Barras

          Touche Pete……….they`re also in my collection too.

          Right click on this link and “save target as” for my updated list (Feb 2005)

          http://www.davidbarras.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/barrasjinglelist.doc

          David Barras

          #15251
          UKJingles
          Member

            Barras wrote: Touche Pete……….they`re also in my collection too.

            Right click on this link and “save target as” for my updated list (Feb 2005)

            http://www.davidbarras.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/barrasjinglelist.doc

            David Barras

            Thats longer than mine David! 😆
            Definately want to hear that stuff by EMBARGOED…..
            Never heard of them before!
            Wouldn’t be mid 1970’s Dallas by any chance? 😉

            #15252
            Barras

              It`s not the size of it Pete………you should know that by now !

              BTW great company…..EMBARGOED…..highly under-rated.

              David Barras

              #15255
              Ian
              Member

                I am in total awe of you guys.
                I have posted a few downloads and collected a few bits, but how on earth did you guys collect so much stuff pre-internet?

                #15256
                UKJingles
                Member

                  Ian wrote: I am in total awe of you guys.
                  I have posted a few downloads and collected a few bits, but how on earth did you guys collect so much stuff pre-internet?

                  Coz we’re sad OLD men Ian! 😆

                  #15257
                  nigel

                    Thanks Pete and Barras – I’ll go through both your lists and will be in touch.
                    What’s the name of the “Doorbell” set so I know what to look for please?

                    Do you think these are worthy of posting for all to hear?

                    As I read from an American on one of the trails, most jingles are from Auntie Beeb’s latter days so I guess there is a whole new audience to the earlier stuff (although those Pams ’67 cuts have been flogged to death).

                    I’ve been collecting for years but from first looks at the lists, I doubt if I’ve got anything you havent – I always thought Norman B had the biggest collection but I’m now begining to wonder. (and we’re not sad, just focused!).

                    Thanks again,

                    Nigel.

                    #15260
                    DavidHemsley

                      Norman has a very small list compared to some of us.

                      The Pepper Tanner packjage you require is avaialble to buy from http://www.kenr.com – including the instrumental tracks.

                      #15263
                      TServo2049

                        One BBC Pepper-Tanner package that has NOT shown up on a Ken R. release (and which I haven’t seen on Ken’s reference list either) is the “Easy Listening” package for Radio 2. I have never heard it…only heard of it…

                        #15264
                        topcat

                          TServo2049 wrote: One BBC Pepper-Tanner package that has NOT shown up on a Ken R. release (and which I haven’t seen on Ken’s reference list either) is the “Easy Listening” package for Radio 2. I have never heard it…only heard of it…

                          “Easy Listening” was an MOR package that Tanner produced. I remember getting into a discussion with one of the local Program Directors in the early/mid-seventies about jingle companies. His comment: You’re programming Top-40 … go to PAMS; but if you want jingles for a true Middle Of The Road station… go to Pepper-Tanner. The station bought PENTHOUSE, EASY LISTENING and went on to be the pilot station for EASY GOING and another Tanner pkg. Despite the whiny voices on a lot of the P/T stuff… the MOR stuff sounded pretty good.

                          Somewhere around here I still have the “Easy Listening” demo in the red P/T box.

                          -TC

                          #15265
                          UKJingles
                          Member

                            Tracy is absolutely right…..
                            “Easy Listening” was one of the best PEPPER TANNER Packages
                            as was the later TANNER “Simple And Free” No Whiny voices on those like a lot of their stuff and quite a lot of todays efforts! 😆

                            #15266
                            ratnob
                            Member

                              “Simple & Free” was wonderful, one of my favourites, though it used the Dallas singers rather than the usual Memphis crowd, I seem to recall.

                              I’m assuming everyone has now got the “It’s What’s Happening” cuts, but if not you can download them here as a high quality 11.5MB m4a file:


                              #15267
                              topcat

                                petewilson wrote: Tracy is absolutely right…..
                                “Easy Listening” was one of the best PEPPER TANNER Packages
                                as was the later TANNER “Simple And Free” No Whiny voices on those like a lot of their stuff and quite a lot of todays efforts! 😆

                                Pete,

                                EASY LISTENING utilized Memphis vocals. SIMPLE & FREE; WFIL BIG D; WLS and a few others used Dallas vocals under the Thunder Productions moniker.

                                The whiny voices were P/T’s trademark sound… as much as I didn’t appreciate it. The real trademark to the MOR packages was the plush orchastrations. Sometimes their mixing left a little to be desired… but that’s life. I’ll have to dig out WHYN-FM’s Easy Listening pkg and post some of the stereo cuts.

                                While they were purchasing Tanner for the FM… the AM was using PAMS Series 29, 32, 33, 40, a couple of PAMS Custom grids, Cuff’s Image II and PAMS 44 (and later, others). Their leadered masters are sitting on the shelf behind me. 😆

                                -TC

                                #15270
                                UKJingles
                                Member

                                  topcat wrote:
                                  Somewhere around here I still have the “Easy Listening” demo in the red P/T box.

                                  the AM was using PAMS Series 29, 32, 33, 40, a couple of PAMS Custom grids, Cuff’s Image II and PAMS 44 (and later, others). Their leadered masters are sitting on the shelf behind me. 😆
                                  -TC

                                  Any chance of posting some of them up then tracy?
                                  Particularly the former :D

                                  Pete

                                  #15275
                                  topcat

                                    petewilson wrote: Any chance of posting some of them up then tracy?
                                    Particularly the former :D

                                    Pete…

                                    I’ll post Pepper/Tanner’s Easy Listening within the hour. In fact, I’m dumping it into CoolEdit as I type. I’m create a .mp3 and post it shortly. I had forgotten that the demo is MONO. Shame. I think I have the backing tracks around here somewhere, too. They’re also mono.

                                    -TC

                                    #15276
                                    ratnob
                                    Member

                                      Meanwhile, for no reason at all except we’re in a Tanner frame of mind, here’s some country cuts for 1470 WSAN ..

                                      #15277
                                      topcat

                                        The demo is uploaded. We have to wait for the powers that be to review and post them. I should have just put ’em up on my server.

                                        -TC

                                        #15278
                                        TServo2049

                                          ratnob wrote: Meanwhile, for no reason at all except we’re in a Tanner frame of mind, here’s some country cuts for 1470 WSAN ..

                                          http://geoffbarton.co.uk/files/IDs/1470WSAN.mp3

                                          Good jingles…but they’re TM. :) Sorry, you tried…

                                          #15280
                                          m_hodgey
                                          Member

                                            topcat wrote: The demo is uploaded. We have to wait for the powers that be to review and post them.

                                            I’m not seeing the upload to review and approve Tracy in the waiting area. Can you please upload them again to the downlaod area or indeed to you own server if you so wish.

                                            Thanks.

                                            #15281
                                            topcat

                                              m_hodgey wrote: I’m not seeing the upload to review and approve Tracy in the waiting area. Can you please upload them again to the downlaod area or indeed to you own server if you so wish.

                                              Hmmm… That’s wierd. I uploaded it to the “Classic Jingles” area. No biggie. I’ve posted the file…. Pepper/Tanner’s EASY LISTENING Demo (Mono)… on the server at:

                                              http://www.jingles.org/pteldemo.mp3

                                              -TC

                                              #15282
                                              UKJingles
                                              Member

                                                Nice one Tracy..Thanks!
                                                Now for those of you who haven’t heard the Radio 2 version from nearly 35 years ago here’s my contribution…
                                                Sorry for the naff quality but back in the latter part of the last century I
                                                used to trade using things called TDK D Cassettes! 😆

                                                http://www.jinglemad.com/audio/users/3/0/r2.mp3

                                                Pete

                                                http://www.pete-wilson.net – The Home Of Great Jingles

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                                                #15283
                                                TServo2049

                                                  I listened to the demo…for all the hoo-hah Tracy made about Pepper-Tanner’s “whiny” voices, this package (at least, the demo) doesn’t have them. Of course, this was one of the packages which was at least demoed with Dallas vocals. Memphis vocals WERE extremely whiny…as you can hear for yourself on the Radio 2 versions Pete posted.

                                                  Did you know that through a good part of the 60s, Pepper-Tanner operated a branch in Dallas? And that they were at one point located on Regal Row, which later housed TM for years and years? You do now…

                                                  I’ve become quite good at figuring out whether a Pepper-Tanner package is from Dallas or Memphis, as I can tell the vocal styles apart quite well. (Clue: The Dallas vocals sound like other Dallas jingles of the time. :) )

                                                  The Now Sound, The Fun One, Odyssey ’70, and several others were also Dallas-made packages. (Unfortunately, in the case of The Now Sound, BBC got it with Memphis singers. What a drag…)

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