[JasonRNF]

I don’t think the 2015 package is awful, it’s just underused. Same beds, same jingles, that same female voiceover on nearly every station.

If stations want to do their own thing, it’s got to sound decent. As we’ve heard with 3CR/Berkshire, it can be executed poorly

[JustMattRadio]

The idea with the packages is that all 39 stations DO sound the same all but for the voice talent they choose to use so as the BBC retain the publishing rights and thus receive the royalty payments. They shouldn’t be using other tracks, they have over 1000 cuts to choose from.

[dw1987ukMember]

Listening to the Eddie Nestor Drive time show on BBC Radio London (who wears a fantastic yellow shirt and tie in his presenter picture), he uses an Mcasso bed (guitar riff version), then an On The Sly bed? This appears to be the same with Vanessa Feltz on Breakfast – what’s the point? Use one or the other, such a contrast, sounds amateurish (in my opinion)

BBC Essex use the guitar riff for their programmes and news.

Does anyone have the full guitar riff bed which I could download, please? Preferably the full version as used by Eddie Nestor. I have the 60-second BBC Essex news one, which I cut from iPlayer when it was played with no voiceover once. Happy to share.

Also, does anyone have a recording of the start of one of Vanessa Feltz’s BBC London 9am shows after the Macasso package was introduced in Oct 2015? (She then moved to breakfast in Jan 2016.) The reason I’d like to hear it is that I’m sure the bed is a ‘funkier’ version of a commonly used Macasso one.

I’ve noticed there are lots of slightly different variations of the Macasso stuff, including the guitar riff bed mentioned above – Eddie Nestor’s one lasts for a while before looping, but Essex’s one is a bit softer and loops after 30 seconds or so (and the news one is looped in a different way to last exactly 60 seconds).

Thanks!

[GrahamCollins]

The bed you’re after is called:

2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav

[JasonRNF]

The idea with the packages is that all 39 stations DO sound the same all but for the voice talent they choose to use so as the BBC retain the publishing rights and thus receive the royalty payments. They shouldn’t be using other tracks, they have over 1000 cuts to choose from.

Exactly what I was thinking, the mcasso ones don’t sound that bad. Shame it’s underused, some great cuts in there that never see the light of day.

Berkshire sport is an absolute disaster. A mix of Mcasso and homemade again.

As for 3CR, I’ve just read on Twitter that the sound producer is in Soho recording new voiceovers, indicating that more Three Counties imaging is about to be butchered!

Interesting that BBC Sussex/Surrey are still on the old package..

[JustMattRadio]

The bed you’re after is called:

2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav

The full mix sounds great, there are four other mixes of that track, hard, light, classical, etc. They sound okay.

[mbMember]

over 1000 and outsourcing production to agencies and still it sounds poor there is something very wrong.
It wasn’t written by people who understood Beds, ramps and stings so from the ground up it’s not well designed for use. Station like 3CR must be using a minimal number of cuts meaning if there are alot they are wasted, BBC London just sounds chopped up.

[dw1987ukMember]

The bed you’re after is called:

2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav

The full mix sounds great

Would you be able to make it available via your Soundcloud (or other means) please?

[GrahamCollins]

I’ve sent you a message

[Paul MMember]

Would appreciate if someone would send me the 2015_MCASSO_116_BBC_LR_GOLD_DRIVE_BED_HARD_MIX.wav
I would be very grateful as I am very interested in BBC LR Idents

Thankyou Very Much

[JustMattRadio]

I’ll see what I can do about uploading some of the different mixes.

[JasonRNF]

Paul, i’ve got some more stuff if you would like me to email you?

[Paul MMember]

Hi Matt and Jason RNF I have personal Messaged you both

[UKJinglesMember]

Does anybody have a copy (or even remember) the (sung) Jingle Package BBC Surrey (and Sussex!) Had before the Mcasso Stuff please?

[rakMember]

Does anybody have a copy (or even remember) the (sung) Jingle Package BBC Surrey (and Sussex!) Had before the Mcasso Stuff please?

If they’ve had Mcasso since 2009, would it have been SCR in those days?

[JasonRNF]

https://youtu.be/yhvu0P-JcuE

This is SCR, not sure if its what you’re looking for though

[UKJinglesMember]

That’s even worse…Yukkk..
No they had a Sung Package around about 2008 (I have the “BBC Surrey” travel jingle somewhere)

Pete

[RW]

To clarify, BBC SCR became BBC Sussex and BBC Surrey in March 2009 with a new (instrumental) jingle package, of which sung variants were introduced the following September. They then went over to Mcasso in June 2010.

I uploaded some off-air recordings of BBC Surrey jingles from the 2009-10 period here: https://youtu.be/-kfLbEw446E

Far superior to anything they’ve had since, it still sounds good a decade on.

[UKJinglesMember]

ahhh.. There the one’s…You are so right RW it is so much better than today’s crap “BBC Local Radio” Idents!
Actually I though lord haw hall said that BBC Local Radio was going to be invested in more with station free choice on budget……(Not on Station identification I assume then?)
They still all have to sound the same (stale and boring)

[star tetley]

ahhh.. There the one’s…You are so right RW it is so much better than today’s crap “BBC Local Radio” Idents!
Actually I though lord haw hall said that BBC Local Radio was going to be invested in more with station free choice on budget……(Not on Station identification I assume then?)
They still all have to sound the same (stale and boring)

Hall did say he wanted stations to be more individual again and was asked about station identification but did not commit either way.

[JasonRNF]

For those who don’t like the Mcasso package, I’m afraid to say, it’s going to be around for a while yet.

If you listen online to nearly any local station on a Saturday afternoon, a generic message plays out telling you that the station is either contractually not allowed to broadcast the football, or is experiencing a techincal fault.

It was, up until the beginning of this month, based on the older Mcasso package, but was updated to reflect the new style.

Here is the old one: https://soundcloud.com/user-984344410-212928352/bbc-local-radio-sport-commentarytechnical-fault

Here is the new one: https://soundcloud.com/user-984344410-212928352/bbc-local-radio-sport-commentarytechnical-fault-2019

If you listen carefully to the new one, the voiceover track has some horrible interference.

[IainJohnston]

I was always disappointed that BBC Local Radio as in the English “City/County” approach
was never applied in Scotland (never e.g. BBC Radio Edinburgh (2EH), Glasgow (5SC),
or Aberdeen etc since the early days of the “British Broadcasting Company” back in the 1920s).

However, on hearing the dirge-like presentation and identification on BBC locals when south
of the border, I’m relieved that Scotland-wide BBC Radio Scotland at least has some “life” to it!

A quick BBC Radio Scotland “refresher”:-
News and conversion by day; also specialist music by night (with “themed” instrumental jingles to match, just like “old ILR” did):-
https://soundcloud.com/allthebestjingles01/ij-bbcradioscotland-news-conversation-rw-17apr2019/s-0My13
https://soundcloud.com/allthebestjingles01/ij-bbcradioscotland-specialist-rw-17apr2019/s-z7vHv

[JasonRNF]

Update on BBC Berkshire

If anyone gets a chance, have a listen to BBC Radio Berkshire. News jingle seems to be consistent now (ditched the hurridly promoted football match), standard 30 second Mcasso 2015, then followed by a custom tail bed (sounds similar to the old one, which was made by Mcasso), this new one isn’t.

Won’t be long before the entire station is completely Mcasso free.

[JasonRNF]

Okay, i’ve found who Berkshire/3CR are now using

It’s a company in America, they’ve previously made jingles for Heart in the UK

[IanF]

Update on BBC Berkshire

Won’t be long before the entire station is completely Mcasso free.

Wonderful news! Time for a change. I drive for a living and I’m tired of hearing mostly the same jingles being used on BBC Radio’s Derby, Nottingham, Lincolnshire, Sheffield, etc! Stephanie Hurst on Radio Leeds has some great jingles though

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