[MarkSMember]

Pete,

I think it’s due to be renamed ‘The Wilson and Blackburn Show’ (lol) )
Remember listing to you on Radio London 94.9 some years ago, talking to Tony about your website… >

[star tetley]

haha..did you listen to him around 12.30 on last Friday’s show Simon?
My almost regular chat on air regarding “Name the Year” feature (not many people in Berkshire seem to get it right!)
Yes Berkshire have done a brilliant job with the branding whilst neighbouring station Surrey/Sussex (quasi-local) are most definitely the worst (and most naff imaging) %-(

You’ve come up with a good idea here Pete! Everybody have a listen round and come up with the top stations and the naff stations.

[UKJinglesMember]

Yeah a Mcasso BBC Local Radio Chart (Berkshire gets my top vote and Surrey/Sussex get my bottom vote but then I don’t like BBC London’s different imaging also!)
Do any of the stations use the “Sung” cut (or was that just for the demo)

[shf2013]

Does anybody have the bbc leeds travel bed at all please? thanks.

[star tetley]

Yeah a Mcasso BBC Local Radio Chart (Berkshire gets my top vote and Surrey/Sussex get my bottom vote but then I don’t like BBC London’s different imaging also!)
Do any of the stations use the “Sung” cut (or was that just for the demo)

No I’m sure that was just on the demo.

[simon_t123Member]

Ahh Pete no I missed that sounds like you guys have some wireless-history mind !!! He’s a great listen I have to say, he does a great job on beeb local stations, rumor has it that his name has turned up in a recent voice-over session for my local BBC … that’d be excellent

I always like to have a flick around the locals when I’m travelling & can only agree with you totally about Sussex/Surrey’s current use of Mcasso … Somerset was another that has a modern style overall with a decent pick of Mcasso in use, similar good listens are dotted around the country, BBC London’s semi-customised take on the package is ‘ok’

[RW]

I think perhaps what limits things a bit as far as Surrey and Sussex are concerned is the requirement to split most of the jingles between the two counties, which explains, for example, why the travel intro is the way it is, and why during joint programming there is simply a 15 second jingle into the news rather than anything more elaborate. However this still doesn’t excuse the fact that a refresh is desperately needed, none of the updated Mcasso material has made it over this way yet.

[star tetley]

Refreshed package in Leicester.

[Vinnah]

Tony Gillham has been using the Music4 jingles on and off for a while:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01sdndc

I’m not sure if it’s intentional (It probably is knowing the way Tony Gillham does his shows) or if it’s a technical thing.

Sometimes it’s Mcasso and other times it’s Music4. I still think that the Music4 jingles on BBC Cambridgeshire sound far more appropriate than Mcasso.

[IainJohnston]

Strange this? The “principle” of the use of the generic material as produced by McCasso was supposedly to save the BBC money by paying the airplay royalties basically to themselves (and create a consistant sound “of course”).

But if Pre-McCasso custom/syndicated stuff is still being used here & there in parallel with McCasso- surely they’re paying out money that they’re not supposed to be? And defeating the whole object?

[tom_h]

I’m surprised that that is allowed although I doubt many BBC managers work on a weekend when that show is put out.

I posted a clip of a similar thing happening on the Sunday afternoon BBC in the Midlands network show with a music 4 travel bed being used and a mcasso news bed.

I would have assumed following the mcasso takeover, all ‘old’ jingles would have been removed from the systems?

Speaking of which – what do BBC Berkshire use? A lot of their beds sound like they’re not mcasso and I’ve noticed that a lot of BBC Local trails are made using instrumental versions of songs – which can’t be royalty free?

[UKJinglesMember]

BBC Berkshire is definitely all Mcasso..apart from a couple of edited S2Blue PAMS Cuts that Tony Blackburn throws in during his show!
As I’ve said before they seem to utilize the Mcasso material better than any of the others

[IainJohnston]

“although I doubt many BBC managers work on a weekend when that show is put out”

In that case…what about the ACCOUNTANTS, auditors, and other financial staff that must therefore not be noticing the ongoing royalty payments being logged up and paid out to Music4 or whatever? “Heads will roll” if it had been anywhere else…or are they playing “old stuff” and not paying for it…

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[tom_h]

“although I doubt many BBC managers work on a weekend when that show is put out”

In that case…what about the ACCOUNTANTS, auditors, and other financial staff that must therefore not be noticing the ongoing royalty payments being logged up and paid out to Music4 or whatever? “Heads will roll” if it had been anywhere else…or are they playing “old stuff” and not paying for it…

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[star tetley]

In my region there is still Music4 on Tony Gillham and Richard Spendlove & Bespoke in Northampton.

[tom_h]

Whilst some people are happy to see this thread die… I thought I’d bring it back to life.

BBC Radio York have refreshed their package but also now use a ‘local (from what I know its actually an actor)’ voiceover. BBC Radio Leeds started doing this a few months ago with a more convincing effort and BBC WM 95.6 started the trend earlier this year.

Has this local voice over style been used on BBC Locals before? I think Leeds had applied it the best and to be honest, WM’s voiceovers don’t sound local enough and that’s coming from somebody born and raised in the Midlands.

[star tetley]

It is Christopher Timothy.

[UKJinglesMember]

It is Christopher Timothy.

Yeah they couldn’t afford Jasper Carrott! )

[danjamesuk]

Christopher Timothy.

Voice of BBC WM (or BBC Radio York, I’m confused).

Whilst he played legendary Yorkshireman James Herriot in All Creatures Great and Small and is undoubtedly a good actor, there’s no substitute for a genuine local voice.

He’s Welsh.

[tom_h]

He’s the voice of BBC Radio York.

BBC WM actually used local people.

[simon_t123Member]

According to one of the ‘Earshot Creative Review’ podcasts the subject of Beeb local radio imaging was up for contract renewal in April 2014 … wonder if anything’s moving along there ? It’s good that some stations refresh their offerings more than once a millenium but there are some that just leave the station sound to slip into stale-dom !

My local here in Essex seems to turn to anyone to voice to voice top up presenter names since the main package was produced, it sounds strange on-air (maybe only to an anorak like me !) but the voices tagging the new presenters names are not as professional as the main station voices, I’d question if they were VO’s at all, it kind of devalues the new peeps as they don’t sound a part of the overall station sound …

[tom_h]

I still think mcasso sounds decent on some stations who use it properly, such as Three Counties and really poor on some stations who don’t care.

[GB]

BBC Sussex & BBC Surrey has been nicely refreshed today!

[star tetley]

The title of this thread should be changed – BBC local radio is not changing at all. They are all stuck with Mcasso!

[RW]

BBC Sussex & BBC Surrey has been nicely refreshed today!

And about time, more than four years after the original Mcasso package was introduced here! Haven’t heard much of it so far, however the news intro is okay but travel is just as bland as before.

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