BBC Local Radio is changing

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  • #90039
    UKJingles
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      I’m sure I heard these during Mark Forrest – not sure as I was stabbing forks in my eyes at the time at painful state of BBC Local Radio between 7-10pm

      BBCCountyshire by MichaelBoltonA

      Excellent Michael..Just about sums up BBC Local Radio!
      Mind you I am enjoying BBC Berkshire a lot nowadays!! (But that’s another story!) :-)
      Who did that BBC Countyshire Jingle?
      They should be commissioned to do the next BBC Local Package!!

      Pete

      #88251
      simon_t123
      Member

        The ‘Countyshire’ jingle & beds in that clip sound very S2Blue to me …

        I hope not too many stations take the same cuts as the Mark Forrest show !!!

        #90314
        Vinnah

          3CR Changed their jingles a couple of weeks ago. Nothing spectacular really, I’m sure I’ve heard the package being used elsewhere. There are also some old bits thrown in which haven’t been updated yet. Interestingly enough the VO still says “On AM, FM, Online & DAB” so it seems as if the Medium Wave broadcasts are going nowhere as of yet.

          I don’t really listen to Local Radio anymore as it’s only a shadow of it’s former self but I really don’t think that the package 3CR are using now is suitable, it just doesn’t seem to go with the rest of the station

          #90315
          mb
          Member

            I’d noticed the jingles changed – they made the travel news intro shorter as it took up way too much time but it’s all very generic middle of the road versions of the cuts – if anytihng a bit slower and calmer. It’s like noone listened to Iain Lee and they’ve stuck old school style BBC local Radio sweepers on a show they don’t suit.
            Wish he could use his old LBC Theme!

            #90652
            shf2013

              can someone upload the bbc york mcasso jingle? It’s really good, would love to hear it clean!!!

              #90726
              tom_h

                Just got a new (old) radio and was flicking around and noticed that Radio Stoke has new (old) jingles from other stations. New voiceover too.

                #90762
                langharr06

                  Has anybody got the TOTH jingle for BBC Newcastle? It’s the jingle that Coventry and Warwickshire had for a number of years. Many Thanks :)

                  #91669
                  star tetley

                    Just got round to listening to the ‘new’ Essex jingles. Certainly an improvement on the last lot. Obviously Mcasso can only get so good though!

                    #91671
                    simon_t123
                    Member

                      The newer Essex jingles are ok, they are an improvement … as the managing editor is also overseeing the Mark Forrest evening show for the BBC it seems he chose to use cuts from there for news & travel, plus a decent mix of standard Mcasso … it’s not all good mind, for ever good cut there’s a weak one ! some beds have slowed things right down …

                      #91722
                      tom_h

                        Have the updates stopped now?

                        As far as I know the last to be updated was Stoke.

                        #91781
                        RW

                          It’s still very much Mcasso Mk1 in Surrey, and after more than three years of them, the jingles are sounding so drab and tired. It’s frustrating knowing that there are some better, fresher jingles available, and we’re still stuck with the old stuff!

                          #91782
                          UKJingles
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                            It’s still very much Mcasso Mk1 in Surrey, and after more than three years of them, the jingles are sounding so drab and tired.

                            Totally agree the station sounds awful …
                            Not just the worn-out idents but a “local” station that covers two massive Home Counties..I really don’t want to know whats happening in Brighton on BBC Surrey! #-O
                            I made the switch to BBC Berkshire at least they’ve got “personalities” there and the idents are a bit more “with it” :-D

                            #69326
                            star tetley

                              New jingles in Northampton today. Usual sort of thing…think news is a new version??

                              #69318
                              tom_h

                                Like a lot of the most recent updates Northampton’s travel has that little sound effect before the jingle.

                                I know Metro Radio use a similar thing and I think brmb used to – do they have an actual purpose?

                                #69257
                                IainJohnston

                                  The old “twiddly-beep” that used to “activate” the TA control on a suitably setup car radio, e.g. over-riding the Beeb station to cut-in a traffic message at higher volume, etc?

                                  Nowadays done with non-audio-range codes, but used to be as a good as a jingle to introduce “ordinary” traffic news.

                                  Even today, Kingdom FM in Fife still use the audio beep at the start of traffic reports, simply because people still recognise it as being for “traffic…”

                                  #69190
                                  jonno
                                  Member

                                    The old “twiddly-beep” that used to “activate” the TA control on a suitably setup car radio, e.g. over-riding the Beeb station to cut-in a traffic message at higher volume, etc?

                                    Nowadays done with non-audio-range codes, but used to be as a good as a jingle to introduce “ordinary” traffic news.

                                    Even today, Kingdom FM in Fife still use the audio beep at the start of traffic reports, simply because people still recognise it as being for “traffic…”

                                    Didn’t the “twiddly beep” DTMF tones merely signal to the RDS encoder at the TX site to toggle the TA flag on/off ( a classic case of in band signalling )? I assumed car radios only responded to the TA flag as broadcast in the RDS datastream.

                                    #92120
                                    simon_t123
                                    Member

                                      Essex Radio Engineering were one of the main manufacturers of “twiddly beep” tech & after an early 90’s trip to BBC Engineering (Mark Saunders – RDS Boss) I was led to think that the DTMF tones played from carts etc signaled the remote RDS gear at the TX site to raise the TA flag … this was the case for commercial radio at the time, with BBC Local Radio a supposed inaudible tone was added to the front of stations travel jingles to raise the TA flag and/or a local mod to the MK3 desk was installed to allow button based operation, with the stations travel out jingle lowering the flag … I think the DTMF logo sound has become something travelers associate with travel news :)

                                      #92122
                                      timbo

                                        Well weather conditions being as they are there will be some long travel bulletins in the morning – so here is a tribute montage of a selection of some of the current Mcasso travel cuts for local BBC radio

                                        Travel You Trust – Mcasso by Timbo_bbc

                                        #92128
                                        tom_h

                                          Thanks for the info on the ‘twiddy beep’. I thought it might be something to do with the TA flag but assumed that would be automatically done by computers now.

                                          I know Metro Radio still use a ‘twiddly beep’ but that might just be because its a recognisable sound.

                                          Capital also have their own subtle variation.

                                          #92131
                                          UKJingles
                                          Member

                                            Thanks for the little montage timbo….. Nice to hear all the variants without the boring voiceovers! =D>

                                            #92132
                                            mb
                                            Member

                                              or the boring variants this imaging makes BBC Local radio sound like morning telly from 1984 – Its radio for the living dead – BBC 3CR covered the burial of a three year old dead cat last week Mr orlando Bojangles a new low in local broadcasting. My tapes of Radio Manchester from 1982 have more pace than bbc local radio today.

                                              #92155
                                              langharr06

                                                BBC Newcastle

                                                #92179
                                                star tetley

                                                  BBC Newcastle

                                                  https://soundcloud.com/langley-harris/bbc-newcastle-toth-2013

                                                  New news jingle in Northampton is a shorter version of this…put together better than the Newcastle one.

                                                  #92180
                                                  langharr06

                                                    Yeah the BBC Newcastle one isn’t put together very well I noticed, it seems rushed towards the end if you know what I mean.

                                                    #92237
                                                    tom_h

                                                      BBC Hereford & Worcester now with an updated package. Sharing the travel jingle with BBC WM, Sheffield, Coventry & Warwickshire and Northampton (all recent updates).

                                                      Got a feeling in a few years all stations will use exactly the same imaging.

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