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  • #89383
    simon_t123
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      … ah it IS the same package York & the Mark Forrest show use … the news intro has the tagline “Essex And Proud” lols, this is repeated twice, like most ID’s now once with the ‘Essex’ sounding male and once with a female voice, not sure which day these went live but the presenters are gently moving around them …

      #89389
      star tetley

        … ah it IS the same package York & the Mark Forrest show use … the news intro has the tagline “Essex And Proud” lols, this is repeated twice, like most ID’s now once with the ‘Essex’ sounding male and once with a female voice, not sure which day these went live but the presenters are gently moving around them …

        They went live on Sunday.

        By the way Northampton go digital tomorrow – could there be anything new?

        #89395
        simon_t123
        Member

          I had a listen this morning, nothing new for Northants that I could detect … thanks for the info re: Essex starting on Sunday, I must have been in another world since then !!! As an Essex ‘person’ I’m still digesting a strapline of “Essex and proud” lols … from listening more I hear the same themes rotating a LOT, i.e interactive / call in ID’s are using the same theme as presenter ID’s and some play them every few minutes …

          #89396
          star tetley

            I had a listen this morning, nothing new for Northants that I could detect … thanks for the info re: Essex starting on Sunday, I must have been in another world since then !!! As an Essex ‘person’ I’m still digesting a strapline of “Essex and proud” lols … from listening more I hear the same themes rotating a LOT, i.e interactive / call in ID’s are using the same theme as presenter ID’s and some play them every few minutes …

            Just a change to the news jingle to mention DAB.

            #89402
            tom_h

              I’ve added a clip of the old/new BBC Essex Mcasso jingles. I’ve left in the first link because the content sounds bloody awful. I know this is a jingle forum but a facebook group with over 400 members wow…. and flapjacks? Really? It was a story during the news bulletins on BBC WM and they couldn’t stop laughing.

              Back to the jingles, the old ones sound very dated now compared to the new ones. I also notice unlike most other BBC Local Beds, they’re ramps with a fixed end unlike a bed and a closing ID.

              BBC Essex Old v New Mcasso by tomh274

              #89412
              star tetley

                You need good presenters when they’ve got a fixed end!

                #89413
                simon_t123
                Member

                  haha, yes the flapjack story was an Essex sourced story … a child at a school injured with a triangular flapjack !!! they could make them circular ;)

                  anyway, good audio there that shows something about the jingles that’s annoying me … most travel outs have the Mcasso logo straight into the presenter ID / bed which starts with … the Mcasso logo, there’s a lot of clashing there between those 3 notes as each ID may have a different tempo / texture … we get a kind of 3 note mashup & it ain’t good !!! also they use the ‘Essex’ MVO saying a plain “BBC Essex” so much now to top & tail promo’s etc that even those words are clashing at times, a little more thought into the flow of things would be good … as for the id’s I know I’ve been bashing Essex for a while now for their stale id’s but the old ones were actually better !!! these new ones are just a bit too … orchestral for my liking, they sound more ‘real’ than the earlier ones yes but give the station an ait that it’s punching above it’s weight, the tone has brcame more serious … but hey ho this is just me waffling & my taste !!!

                  #89416
                  tom_h

                    The new travel out with it’s drivetime specific voiceover is a nice touch. I do agree however the bed after the travel out does not need another ‘BBC Essex’ voiceover.

                    #89425
                    simon_t123
                    Member

                      Yeah I noticed that with the drivetime V/O that’s all the show needs for an intro as there’s always travel directly after the news at drivetime … in the clip there the bed used is not so clashy but yesterday it was the “do-do-dooo” of the travel straight into a much slower “do-do-dooo” of a different bed, too much do-do-dooo’ing lols ;)

                      #89472
                      AndyW
                      Member

                        Hadn’t seen the Midlands travel ident post. Sounds like Radio Shropshire’s usual travel intro bed with a different v/o. That show only has a split news intro at the start and doesn’t usually do travel news which I guess is why you got the generic ident.

                        #89581
                        tom_h

                          BBC Coventry and Warwickshire have new Mcasso jingles, and new voiceovers. This fits in with the new schedule change today. I’ll post some clips later.

                          #89624
                          shf2013

                            did I just here a clear bed at 4pm!?! Sounds like Sheffield.

                            #89635
                            tom_h

                              A clear news bed? Yeah, the presenters don’t talk over it.

                              #89648
                              tom_h

                                As promised, but late.

                                BBC Coventry & Warwickshire New Mcasso Jingles by tomh274

                                Sheffield’s jingles feature a lot, Phil Upton’s jingle seems to be a reworked news bed.

                                #89656
                                shf2013

                                  thanks for that, God i just love that bed at :37

                                  #89738
                                  mb
                                  Member

                                    I’m sure I heard these during Mark Forrest – not sure as I was stabbing forks in my eyes at the time at painful state of BBC Local Radio between 7-10pm

                                    BBCCountyshire by MichaelBoltonA

                                    #89740
                                    GrahamCollins

                                      Very good mb – I rather think that you did hear this……

                                      #89742
                                      IainJohnston

                                        Ha! I was actually going to send a copy of the full version of that to young Linden this weekend! :-D

                                        #89746
                                        LenGroat

                                          I’m not sure if VERY dull instrumental beds with BBC local radio ‘prattle’ over them really ‘fit’ on JingleMad ?

                                          Annie Othen (sp?) “Excitement ” ? I don’t think so…..

                                          Thoughts??

                                          #89748
                                          tom_h

                                            I can see why you feel they don’t fit on jingle mad, they’re not very exciting.

                                            Problem is though, if I was to flick through my radio now then I could only think of two stations that use sung jingles. Sadly this is the state of UK radio now with more using voiceovers over music beds.

                                            I see no harm in discussing the changes between various BBC Local Radio jingles while they’re still there, considering they’re trying to make BBC Local Radio all the same anyway. I know you might not find it exciting and to be honest neither do I but I find it interesting.

                                            #89753
                                            simon_t123
                                            Member

                                              And … it could all change @ some stage !!! the beeb locals went all twinkly circa the year 2000 with the last network-wide branding push … then locals branched off with a variety of sung ID’s from a variety of providers :)

                                              Some of the new C&W ID’s are re-versions of those used by the Mark Forrest evening show, as now also used on BBC Essex, and some of those in use on C&W I’ve not heard before … whilst listening to Mark Forrest you can hear they’ve put into use alt/stripped mixes of that show’s theme for various text & phone in prompts, and listening to the C&W cuts above I wonder if Mcasso or whoever makes these now (the beeb might have these under hand in house now – a BBC affiliated orchestra was mentioned to me a while back) are providing more ‘layer’ based workparts so producers can strip say the brass overdubs or some of the beat back to make alternative, unique production ?

                                              It can be dull, or at least it was when it started to all come to air several years ago but it’s improving all the while in my opinion, some stations sound pretty slick with their production, Radio Kent springs to mind … BBC Essex have made good use of travel tags to promote the current show “keeping you moving thu the rush – Ian Puckey” etc and so it’s always a hunt to see who’s doing what, I appreciate Len’s view here it’s not the sung jingles we majority are in love with in use, but it’s a big network with a lot of imaging, personally I like the conformity of a brand, the beeb have kept varying degrees of localness alive in the imaging, the local voiceover is one example, the individual station Mcasso logo’s are another … In that respect it is interested and as I started by saying here it could all change @ some stage :)

                                              #89770
                                              star tetley

                                                And … it could all change @ some stage !!! the beeb locals went all twinkly circa the year 2000 with the last network-wide branding push … then locals branched off with a variety of sung ID’s from a variety of providers :)

                                                Some of the new C&W ID’s are re-versions of those used by the Mark Forrest evening show, as now also used on BBC Essex, and some of those in use on C&W I’ve not heard before … whilst listening to Mark Forrest you can hear they’ve put into use alt/stripped mixes of that show’s theme for various text & phone in prompts, and listening to the C&W cuts above I wonder if Mcasso or whoever makes these now (the beeb might have these under hand in house now – a BBC affiliated orchestra was mentioned to me a while back) are providing more ‘layer’ based workparts so producers can strip say the brass overdubs or some of the beat back to make alternative, unique production ?

                                                It can be dull, or at least it was when it started to all come to air several years ago but it’s improving all the while in my opinion, some stations sound pretty slick with their production, Radio Kent springs to mind … BBC Essex have made good use of travel tags to promote the current show “keeping you moving thu the rush – Ian Puckey” etc and so it’s always a hunt to see who’s doing what, I appreciate Len’s view here it’s not the sung jingles we majority are in love with in use, but it’s a big network with a lot of imaging, personally I like the conformity of a brand, the beeb have kept varying degrees of localness alive in the imaging, the local voiceover is one example, the individual station Mcasso logo’s are another … In that respect it is interested and as I started by saying here it could all change @ some stage :)

                                                There is a difference this time as all stations have been forced to take this package.

                                                #89806
                                                simon_t123
                                                Member

                                                  with any luck that was in times of much lean-ness ! and as time goes by things might change, who knows :) they’re doing ok tho’ at the moment as they are … I don’t mind the locals sound :) but I always listen for the next thing !

                                                  #89962
                                                  shf2013

                                                    Clean bed YESS!!

                                                    Can Somebody kindly capture it at 59:24? Well mostly clean anyways!

                                                    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017b0q0

                                                    thanks

                                                    #90035
                                                    local_12

                                                      BBC Bristol have changed their jingles to the new batch as well.

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