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star tetley
can’t recall there being any GB
… actually not 100% on that, it’s possible they ‘jingle bell’d” up some of the usual cuts, at least here in Essex … I can’t remember any specific festive cuts, it might well have been bells in for strings or someone with an overdub using their trusty triangle or cymbals The one with the bells on the end is being played in Northampton.
simon_t123
ooo’ they’re getting about then
Essex, yep ‘belling’ their blandest cut up this yeah as a main / presenter ID but it’s Xmassy I guess … I did here a purely festive bed being spoken over on Steve Scrouton’s afternoon show, it had the melody “we wish you a Merry Christmas, and a happy new year” in amongst the Mcasso-esque sound …tom_h
star tetley … too right, loads of festive ‘stuff’ on the regional shows, Essex have been using the evening Xmassy travel bed as their main presenter ID / bed over Christmas this year, I was pleased to hear some festive Mcasso in Essex at least, a trip to the Midlands and then Xmas away in Somerset found no stations in my travelling areas using Mcasso Christmas cuts, I was in the Somerset area for a few days over Xmas itself … not one Xmas sounding cut
I’ve got a theory with the Eastern Counties news intro’s, the contributing station seems to now play a generic / no VO version of their own station’s news intro, Sue Marchant’s news intro had the Radio Cambridgeshire logo in the news build, and shows from Nick Risby / James Wotsit coming from Suffolk used the Radio Suffolk logo in their news build, same kind of thing they seem to do in the South with Kent using it’s logo …
Yes, I also noticed the generic news build while listening here in Cambridge, I thought it was a technical fault at first because of the loss of VO
It gives away the game away to listeners in Northants, 3CR and Essex and I noticed that they played the Cambridgeshire travel jingle (with voiceover) to other stations in the region as well.
Yes, I also noticed the generic news build while listening here in Cambridge, I thought it was a technical fault at first because of the loss of VO
It gives away the game away to listeners in Northants, 3CR and Essex and I noticed that they played the Cambridgeshire travel jingle (with voiceover) to other stations in the region as well.
In terms of imaging, I hope BBC East uses the same type of imaging as BBC Midlands and BBC West.
jonno
Listening to the BBC Radio Solent breakfast programme this morning I hear Mcasso cuts in use now
ta for the heads up jonno, just had a listen back on the iplayer
not a bad selection of cuts, I like what they’ve done for the top of hour on Solent, a fairly widespread cut builds to a ‘Radio Solent’ logo but instead of the usual “do do dooo” at the end they’ve got slightly different chords in use, the melody goes up a note instead of down I think, then theres a pad for the pips before they fire off a more normal sting of “do do dooo” lols, I was going to post some audio but could I get Audition to rip from iPlayer ??? Nah !didn’t hear a toh , but glad to hear they have created a radio solent logo for it. The cuts i heard punctuating the main programme content sounded a bit samey and repetitive and all ‘do do dooo’ will give a more critical listen tomorrow .. This morning was a bit hectic – first day back at work and first day back at school for the girls so hopefully the domestic routine will run a little smoother tomorrow
here’s hoping jonno !!! my school run starts again tomorrow … so with Solent in the Mcasso bag, does that just leave BBC London ? I heard cuts for Cumbria here on JM via this thread, so they must have switched or be doing so soon, I was thinking the bods-that-be could make a good fusion of the Mcasso & BBC London logo’s
as for Solent, yep deffo samey but just that TOH to note, just how the notes we come to expect to sound out ‘BBC’ take a different key / chord, just before the pips !
Vinnah
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The jingles are a good adaption of the previous ones including the TOH but Solent seems to have gone the same way as Essex and Devon in terms of having only one standard presenter ID. The package also sounds a bit similar to Berkshire… but hey this is a generic package
From what I’ve heard London is meant to take the package but I’m sure there will be special cuts or at least vamped up versions like Solent, Leicester and Derby.
I think there’s a techincal reason why programmes from Kent don’t/can’t play split jingles across the south network as opposed to programmes sourced from Southampton which can/do. (Cue Rak with an explanation/correction to this statement) Also, I guess the split jingles are relevant in Paul’s show because they announce the phone numbers which are specific to each station. He had a funny little technophobe moment the other evening when the jingle playout was misbehaving
interesting technical & Mcasso type posts here
a great read … one point whilst passing thru, presenters who chat over the Mcasso logo’s … so annoying !!! I know for some stations the logo out of travel can be up to 10/15 seconds long but talking over it as soon as the VO is done is removing what little localisation that package brings to a station, perhaps travel jingles take up too much airtime !I can’t say I’ve heard the wrong travel ID’s go out on the wrong stations here in the east, I’ve heard some dead air here in Essex when regional fired travel ID’s have failed to play, the same I heard when passing thru Northants at news time last year, I’ve also heard bleed from say Sue’s headphones with the Cambs travel ID coming thru her studio mic, I guess making things generic solves those kinds of problems, I had a meeting with Gerald Main the man.ed at BBC Essex the other year & was asking about regional programmes then whilst pitching an idea, Gerald said that as the BBC were going through the whole ‘trust’ thing at the time (dodgy winners & fake callers) there was some feeling perhaps that pretending a regional show is local & imaging as such might actually anger the listener more ! The BBC was being very careful at that time to be open & honest, perhaps that’s a reason for generalising branding ?
Branding interests me in general, I’m happy enough with the concept of the Mcasso package even if the quality leaves a lot to be desired, I like the uniform sound so long as it maintains local tweaks & elements, as for many stations it does.
Thinking about why stations in the East play their own music logo versions of travel / news etc, I’m sure some of us remember the times when on ITV the local TV company, Anglia, Thames etc would play their ident before a show they made aired on the network, that’s going way back but was a kind of credit to that company for producing the programme for the network, it might not be a million miles in thought away for that for stations in the East, Essex, Cambs & Suffolk certainly play their own Mcasso themes now, with their own local logo but no VO, where VO’s are used they are the voices usually used by the station making the show for the region.
Does anyone get up early enough to catch Wally Webb’s network show from Norfolk ? What imaging does he use ? Norfolk is the regional HQ for the East & decisions on network imaging & programmes come from Norwich, the man.ed of Radio Norfolk used to also be the regional controller also (I think).
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