[glen]

Does anybody know who did the sonovox voices for Pams?

[RobinBlamires]

The late Dan Alexander must have done a fair number.

[Tracy CarmanMember]

Ken Justiss did the ones for TM. Jon Wolfert does the JAM ones. …and yup… Dan Alexander did the majority of the ones for PAMS.

[glen]

Thanks guys. I’ve always wondered who did the Pams ones.

[bobgreenradioMember]

the bulk of my cuts were done by ken (aka: mr. sonoman), the dry cuts are great. but, all in all, dan still IS the sonovox voice we all remember and love. he was a ‘classic’

[Terry Hawkes]

anyone know if they still do the sonovox voice as they did in the old days or has technology pushed it on

[bobgreenradioMember]

depends on who does em. for example, ken does it the ‘old fashion’ way. i also have heard stuff done the ‘cyber’ way…really stink. and theres that vocoder thing like frampton used in his act.
so i guess the final effect or result you want determines if they are any good, right?
my standard of perfection was established by big dan. ken comes as close as anyone can, not called dan. haha

[Terry Hawkes]

i guess also some of the post effects they can put on these days tunes it up a little loved some on a kkhr jingle package i downloaded just sounded so polished but authentic too

[Terry Hawkes]

by the way the frampton thing was bloody awful

[Terry Hawkes]

so were the ones i had made by an essex company but they were all i could afford ,guess it’s a very talented technique

[Barras]

Ken Justiss did the ones for TM. Jon Wolfert does the JAM ones. …and yup… Dan Alexander did the majority of the ones for PAMS.

I recall reading on JM several years ago, that Jon did some of the PAMS too…

[Tracy CarmanMember]

Ken Justiss did the ones for TM. Jon Wolfert does the JAM ones. …and yup… Dan Alexander did the majority of the ones for PAMS.

I recall reading on JM several years ago, that Jon did some of the PAMS too…

I’m sure he did. I think Tom Parma did some, too, at PAMS.

[Barras]

so were the ones i had made by an essex company but they were all i could afford ,guess it’s a very talented technique

It certainly is a talented technique and in this video I posted on YouTube, you get to see Jon Wolfert @ JAM, recording sonovox for the UK`s Radio Topshop…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwbGm-39Z4w&context=C4374bccADvjVQa1PpcFOmmJxOkVm_ikcCD0RlGnWcHb3mJ4rLpkk=

[ejjeffMember]

The last I heard there were only a couple of real sonovox around. Jon Wolfert has one at Jam. Ken Justiss still does some sessions. I think Ken R might have had one (not sure), And Dan Taylor at WCBS-FM had one. I don’t know if he still has one.

[bobgreenradioMember]

actually terry, they are pretty simple to do…the old fashion way. when the real pams folded, we wanted to expand our package. i played around for a few days, trial & error, and got a winning combo that were perfect. the trick is the beds. we used the pams we had. a fairly directional mic, off center (the electrovoice 644, not 664) and the transducers were university sound units, 2 to 3 reeel to reel machines, with differing level feeds to each channel (final mix was mono).
and as you screw around, you get the hang of it. “P”‘s were a bitch, so we used “B”. music power was music bower, on air? nobody caught it. the way you set up your compressor and reverb for post production also is trial & error.
in a weeks time we had it all figured out. voice texture is very important too. dan alexanders voice was ideal. mine wasnt, and the stuff kicking around today really is awful except for kens work. out of everything now ive heard, ken has it as good as you can get it.
but listen terry, try doing a few…hey! for fun! i would suggest a lighter transducer though, and you might like diddling with a graphic eqon them. just do it! )

[IainJohnstonMember]

Does Steve England still have his one? Or was it “borrowed”?

I have a 42-year-old “personal cut” sono by Ken Justiss, 4-year-old ones also by him, but I have to say my JAM ones including the latest one have the most “polished” sound, and Jon seems to be able to create much more modern “driver” tones/synth sounds which are far “richer” than Ken’s which have a more “classic” set of tones (some of which are still the ones he’s used all these years, e.g. the ubiquitous “buzztone”, which I think are possibly “pre-programmed” into the “box of tricks” that still accompanies his sonovox kit to this day).

Regardless, all of these guys are so adept at what they do with such a seriously silly but highly successfull bit of gear!

[Barras]

The last I heard there were only a couple of real sonovox around. Jon Wolfert has one at Jam. Ken Justiss still does some sessions. I think Ken R might have had one (not sure), And Dan Taylor at WCBS-FM had one. I don’t know if he still has one.

I was told many years ago on great authority that the original PAMS sonovox lay in the garage of Bill Meeks home in Dallas for several years.

[bobgreenradioMember]

heres the real world point to consider. PRICE!
who does what, for how much money? quite honestly “jingflation” is nothing im willing to underwrite. ill pay real money for real band tracks. not for synthcrapola. its that simple. sonovox, as much fun as it is, is just a drop in effect. more to the point, does the listener notice? how many out of a thousand?? a buzz tone, after all, is a buzz tone.
you have “X” to spend on the package. spend it on something that matters. like real music. otherwise? buy realworld. very very good ‘stuff’ without the issues of staying power to clutter up your format. crc, pams, tm made jingles. unlike whats going on now

[teachercreature]

Ben Freedman does sonovox cuts very inexpensively. Last year I ask him to cut me a whisper shout for a series I was producing and he did some sonovox cuts as well at no extra charge. As you will see when you access this link, whoever was doing them likes to fool around but obviously, they have the equipment or know someone who does.
Take a listen.
http://www.4shared.com/mp3/9tHeKg8v/file.html

[ejjeffMember]

Ken Justiss does the sonovox sessions for Ben Freedman.

[Tracy CarmanMember]

I was told many years ago on great authority that the original PAMS sonovox lay in the garage of Bill Meeks home in Dallas for several years.

It was, David. Now it’s comfortably sitting on my desk.

[Tracy CarmanMember]

One note… Using a sonovox is akin to making a cake. You can have all of the ingredients, but if you don’t have the recipe to put it all together forget it.

In my opinion, from the for-what-it’s-worth department… Jon Wolfert, Ken Justiss and Steve England are the three that can properly use the sonovox these days. There is a technique for getting it to sound right… and despite the trial and error methods discussed… it’s worth investing some money to have cuts done right by the professionals.

[bobgreenradioMember]

awwhhh yesss, the cake. nothing like a great cake from a quality bakery. oh, and a half gallon of real ice cream as a chaser….
so? how do you make that great cake? take a class? cake 101? you could. but theres no sono-school. so you do it just like the cake makers of olden days. you screw around until you have it (a brain is necessary too), just like the master bakers of old did. kay kyser produced a slick film of sonovox use in the big band era. the clip is on utube. check it out. the sonovox has a long beard; with credit going to meeks and his ‘playfulness’ with top 40 radio.
so, buy em, make em, its your call. we do both

[mjb1124Member]

And Dan Taylor at WCBS-FM had one. I don’t know if he still has one.

I know that when CBS-FM came back in 2007, before they got the Positron jock sings, they had some sono-style shouts for the new jocks at the time. I’m not enough of an sonovox connoisseur to tell if they were the real deal or not, but if they were than maybe Dan Taylor made them?

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