Old Dan Ingram jingle question

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  • #60335
    JingleMad
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      Ahh! The legend himself.
      Sorry i don`t appear to have the cut you are looking for but couldn`t resist posting these classics.

      http://jinglemad.com/e107_files/public/1215359402_6527_FT63155_dan_ingram.mp3 filename:dan_ingram.mp3

      #60344
      Barras

        Dan Ingram is the only disc-jockey that I`ve heard, to drop his namecheck acapella (Dan Ingram – I believe it was a PAMS sing) everywhere. He used to drop over the start of songs, when talking, over the end of commercials and on top of other WABC jingles. I`ve got some video of Dan Ingram on-air at WCBS-FM using JAM`s Do It Again package and he had a “tech-op” (engineer) playing out his songs, commercials & jingles. Dan would lift his hand as a cue for the engineer to play the next bit of audio. Don`t know whether Dan Ingram had an engineeer at WABC of if he was self-operating ?

        Barras

        #60351
        IainJohnston
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          I believe in those days ALL WABC audio was played out by the engineer – the 77 “musicradio” tribute
          website has some excellent pics of the engineers & DJs right across from each other – very much a
          close-knit teamwork operation, which allowed the personality jocks to do what they did best – talk!

          http://www.musicradio77.com/

          #60362
          Barras

            Thanks Wixy,

            just revisted the tribute website – excellent stuff, including the Dan Ingram acapella I was talking about …

            http://www.musicradio77.com/jingles/series31/daning.wav

            Barras

            #60368
            JAM / PAMS
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              The old “On The Dan Ingram Show” jingle comes from CRC Series 3. CRC was “Commerical Recording Corporation”, a Dallas producer who stopped doing business around 1970 or so. Ingram had that jingle when he was the morning DJ at KBOX in Dallas, and continued using it when he got to WABC in NY.

              Because of strict union regulations at the time, all of the New York City radio stations used engineers to play the records, start the carts, cue the tapes, turn the mics on and off, etc. (Today they would be called “board ops”.) So the DJ would determine what was going to happen, tell the engineer, and then cue him or her for each event. Ingram had a few name jingles that he used constantly, and they just stayed in the cart machines for his entire shift (WABC typically used 6 cart machines, and was one of the first stations to transfer everything to cart and have no turntables in sight.) When Ingram was teamed with a good engineer the teamwork was intuitive- Dan would casually flick his pencil toward the engineer which would constitute a cue- the good engineers would have a feel for his timing and would really run a very tight show. As a frequent visitor to WABC beginning in 1966, I saw this unfold in front of me countless times and was always impressed at how well everything flowed – jock to jock, around the clock.

              One reason that Ingram inserted his name so often was that he had a very lucrative career on the side doing commercial voice-overs for radio and TV spots. He viewed the radio show as an ongoing “live demo” of his voice, and wanted potential ad agency employers to remember his name so they'd know who to hire! In time, it became part of the signature sound of his show and the station, and has since weaved it's way into radio immortality.

              #60370
              Barras

                Thanks Jon,

                never knew that about the “union regulations” in the USA making DJs use an engineer/”board op”, incidentally, in the UK they`re called “tech-ops” (technical operators) – they`re not used that much these days, due to digitization and computers running everything.

                Speaking as an aircheck listener of WABC (I`m envious that you saw Dan Ingram and other jocks on-air at WABC !) listening to those airchecks, you can`t tell that the WABC jocks were not self-operating, it was a very “slick” sound on-air despite the jocks not driving the shows themselves. You see a lot of the “dj & engineer” relationship in the Howard Stern movie “Private Parts” – when Howard was at WNBC, a “board-op” would drive his shows.

                BTW I reckon, the only jock in the UK who regularly used to talk over station ID jingles and “drop” his name-check jingles everywhere (like Dan Ingram) was Chris Tarrant at Capital Radio in London.

                David Barras

                #60704
                thtwine

                  I must mention that one of the very best practitioners of the board-engineer's craft “on the Dan Ingram show” was (is) a very nice gentleman named Frank d'Elia, who I believe still works at WABC! He helps with the annual “WABC Rewound” on Memorial Day in the States.

                  As an example of Dan's jingle placement, check out the last aircheck in the “1971” section of the page here: http://www.musicradio77.com/airchecks.html

                  [Please excuse the fading; I recorded it off-air 310 miles (499 km) from the transmitter site!]

                  The plan appeared to be this: when coming to a stop-set, Dan would talk out of the song then drop his name jingle before the first commercial. Between songs, he'd talk almost up to the vocal of the new song, just leaving enough time for his “Daaaan Ing-ram!” jingle to hit the vocal.

                  Enjoy!

                  #60706
                  johnnyg

                    Up here in NYC we had a very popular DJ for many many years named Dan Ingram (have not heard him on the air in quite some time. Hope he is still around somewhere.)

                    I was over in the US just recently and sadly some friends told me that apparently Dan is not in very good health these days. I don't think he's broadcasting any longer.

                    Johnny

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