[Maya53]

According to the Jingle News Network's website, there will be a July podcast which will contain the new Q102 pacakge from Jones TM. I do not know whether this package is used on WIOQ(Philadelphia) or WKRQ in Cincinnati. If so, is this a resing of another package or just a complete new package?

[kcmike]

…or is it for Dublin Ireland's Q102?

[Paul]

The package isn't exactly for a Q102 station – I think Q102 is just the demo sing. The package is called Amp'd and should be on the TM site soon. It's a repackage of 2 Wise Buddah packages.

And if you remember from May's edition of the podcast – there's a CHR package for a UK station coming soon.

[NickySMember]

I assume the CHR package is for TFM Radio as that is on the new Jones TM UK demo CD

[DevawebMember]

Hello!

Q102 isn't a demo sing, it was recorded for KQIB in Oklahoma. A real station, playing real jingles The Wise Buddah tracks fitted their requirements to a tee, with vocals recorded in the states by JonesTM.

[mbMember]

Wouldn't that TFM package work well resung for Metro Radio, and Red Rose Radio !!!

[radiojingles.co.nr]

Oh my God. so TFM Radio is a by product of another package in the UK. Whatever happened to the Dallas Jingle heritage? It's sad to say that TM nowadays produce less original materials for US stations. TFM radio used the WNCI logo, take a close listen?

TFM's vocal group is fair. It uses the same vocal group with the new Kiss 108 kissville logo.

Im sure TM's gonna come up with a US version of the TFM package soon.

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[JingleCity]

NickyS wrote:
I assume the CHR package is for TFM Radio as that is on the new Jones TM UK demo CD

Having heard a preview of the new TFM Radio pack a month ago – it has grown of me a lot!

What else is on the new UK demo CD then Nicky?

[MartinS]

Lovin' the new package for TFMradio

[mattii70]

If anybody's interested, Q102 KQIB stream online and are using their new Jones TM/Wise Buddah package. You can listen here:
http://www.thestreamcenter.com/search.asp?name=kqib

[LenGroat]

I just had the link to the TFM Radio package sent to me.

I just have to ask:

WHY do they sing exactly the same lyric on EVERY cut?

WHY does nearly every track end on that UP, animated 'ooo' (or worse still 'oo ooo ooo ooo?) Don't they play any SLOW records?

WHY is there not a SINGLE cut that sings the LOCATION of 'TFM Radio', or something celebrating the MERITS of living in that area??

Why does the NEWS jingle just sing the name, is there meant to be something in the track that tells listeners it is for news?

Why do most of the cuts have that 1990 'disco synth drums' or 'Bryan Adams guitar' ??

This sounds to me like the jingle company giving the client EXACTLY what they want, but not pointing out how INCREDIBLY repetitive it is.

Then again, if you can sell ONE basic jingle 30 times…. why not ? ! !sad

[MartinS]

Some good points there Len.

One thing I will say, in relation to your point about location, is that I think a Sung strapline with a geographical element is a great (and possibly essential) idenification requirement for LOCAL CHR and AC stations. I'm sure it would be really hard to get one to work for TFM Radio though! I think this is because the coverage area is comaratively wide and there is no one single central focal point that the whole transmission area can relate to. Plus, like a handful of British local stations is transmits to more than one region.

[IainJohnstonMember]

“Then again, if you can sell ONE basic jingle 30 times…. why not ? !”

I do have to agree with Len's overall comments!

Mind you, the idea of selling the same jingle “30 times
over” was invented by PAMS with their “Grid” system,
but at least each variant sounded different, and was
designed to offer clients lots of cuts more economically
– and all before the “digital mixout” was invented!

[martinlesterMember]

LenGroat wrote:

I just had the link to the TFM Radio package sent to me.

I just have to ask:

WHY do they sing exactly the same lyric on EVERY cut?

WHY does nearly every track end on that UP, animated 'ooo' (or worse still 'oo ooo ooo ooo?) Don't they play any SLOW records?

WHY is there not a SINGLE cut that sings the LOCATION of 'TFM Radio', or something celebrating the MERITS of living in that area??

Why does the NEWS jingle just sing the name, is there meant to be something in the track that tells listeners it is for news?

Why do most of the cuts have that 1990 'disco synth drums' or 'Bryan Adams guitar' ??

This sounds to me like the jingle company giving the client EXACTLY what they want, but not pointing out how INCREDIBLY repetitive it is.

Then again, if you can sell ONE basic jingle 30 times…. why not ? ! !sad

While I agree with most of Len comments this is typical of today’s UK Radio
Why spend time with some lyric content when you can knock out

16 cuts with Today’s Favourite Music (add the name of the station)

Or

Your Life, Your Music (add the name of the station)

Or

The Best of the 80’s 90’s and Now (Add the name of the station)

It’s all very easy for the PD and the Jingle Company

The other point about LOCATION well with more and more people listening on DAB or the Internet the location of the station is somewhat irrelevant

Same as the Frequency most radio these days Display the Name of the Station and again more and more people are listning on DAB or the internet so again the frequency is irreverent so far only a few stations have picked up on this

[Steve Scotland]

Having heard such a lot about the “fabulous” new TFM package, I tuned into the station whilst on Teesside. I have to say the jingles sound INVISIBLE. They are “lost” in the general mellee of adverts, fake American jocks and today's favourite music. They are not the least bit noticeable, as far as I am concerned.

I would have to agree with a sentiment Jon Wolfert has expounded on several occasions. “Jingl;es should be musical and memorable”. Not to say NOTICEABLE.

Hope Jones TM operate ” your money back if not entirely satisfied” policy…….

[martinlesterMember]

Steve Scotland wrote:
Having heard such a lot about the “fabulous” new TFM package, I tuned into the station whilst on Teesside. I have to say the jingles sound INVISIBLE. They are “lost” in the general mellee of adverts, fake American jocks and today's favourite music. They are not the least bit noticeable, as far as I am concerned.

I would have to agree with a sentiment Jon Wolfert has expounded on several occasions. “Jingl;es should be musical and memorable”. Not to say NOTICEABLE.

Hope Jones TM operate ” your money back if not entirely satisfied” policy…….

I think you will find Jones TM are the only Jingle Company that does Unconditionally Guarantee its work
Or they did when they were TMCentury as I still have a demo CD that says this

[robertpobjoy]

Len did make a couple of valid points, but I do think you are being a little too harsh about the package for TFM.

If you look at many of the recent AC/CHR packages for stations, a good number of them sing the same lyrics on most cuts – likely for continuity of “getting the message across” is it not?

Every cut in the TFM package ends on the up (as though it's part of the logo) – and it works, even for slow records – have you actually listened to the package on the station itself?

I agree about the fact that I would like to see a TFM Radio location cut – and as for the 'large' geographical area that it serves, other stations have managed it – i.e. Metro back in their Reelworld 2003 package had Metro Radio, the NORTH EAST's #1 Hit Music Station. TFM is aimed at Teeside, so it would possible to sing “TFM Radio, Teeside”.

I do not see why you feel that it is necessary for the news jingle to be fully sung? It has a 7 or 8 second talkup before the TFM Radio sing. If the station feels that it is appropriate, it could put something that identify's that it is the news. It's all about versatility. Also bearing in mind that if its on air every hour, and is only used for the news, listeners would automatically recognise that it is the news.

I think personally, you are cutting the TFM package little short, I wish more stations were using Jingles – and at least emap / TFM chose to air them instead of going for bland old liners / sweepers, – back to the good old example of Metro Radio!

I think you need to cut both Chris and the rest of the guys at JonesTM and TFM a little slack – don't you think?

[LenGroat]

Hello Rob

Thanks for your constructive comments. I purely make observations on quality of jingles, it's immaterial to me WHO made them. It just so happened the Jones TM CD is freely availabe right now so I think I and other contributors are aware of it.

When they 'trumpet' a new package they are inviting comment, be it praise or criticism.

Your comment : 'Every cut in the TFM package ends on the up'.

This is because nearly all stations now programe jingles with the computer and these are mainly used out of breaks where they invariably play an UP record. (Presenters cannot use them randomly) As they go for UP records out of breaks, the packages do not have good medium or slow ending cuts.

As regards using the same lyric on EVERY cut this is a 'knee jerk' response by the vast majority of stations as their 'phrase' is in the survey diaries. But there is NOTHING to stop them reversing the phrase or doing variations on it ~ they are all just unadventurous, and no one wants to lead the way too get back to more inventive/ less liner card/sweeper led radio?

I respect people like Chris Stevens. He's young (and 'British in America', THE true home of GREAT jingles) so the FUTURE of jingles is in his hands, and the rest of his generation. I hope the comments on here have helped him grow ?

Best wishes

Len

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