Insanity: On a slow boat from the UK to the US….

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  • #100192
    GrahamCollins

      Hi TC, impressive effort and expense, but what is the thinking at MPF behind storing multi-track session tapes like this, presuming that you already have the 2-track stereo reductions or backing tracks ?

      #100193
      michi
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        I wish I lived closer to Springfield. :)

        #100194
        UKJingles
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          I wish I lived closer to Springfield. :)

          The Home of The Simpsons :-)

          #100196
          IainJohnston

            “but what is the thinking at MPF behind storing multi-track…presuming… “

            Why is the original Mona Lisa sitting in the Louvre in Paris, for those of us who’ve been there, an actually quite small thing behind a glass screen on the wall, that’s barely visible from behind the public security rail, when I could (and HAVE) bought a digital-source scanned & printed-image MOUSEMAT of it from the museum souvenir shop?

            Because the ORIGINAL, and the creative work that went into it, still matters? :^)

            OR… Hehheh – someday we’ll be queuing up for a re-sing and “lite” mixouts, rather than the reductions, as Personal Cuts?
            (…. please, please, please….)
            :^)

            #100209
            michi
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              I wish I lived closer to Springfield. :)

              The Home of The Simpsons :-)

              The home of MPF…

              #100217
              Jim Donahue

                Why is the original Mona Lisa sitting in the Louvre in Paris, for those of us who’ve been there, an actually quite small thing behind a glass screen on the wall, that’s barely visible from behind the public security rail, when I could (and HAVE) bought a digital-source scanned & printed-image MOUSEMAT of it from the museum souvenir shop?

                Because the ORIGINAL, and the creative work that went into it, still matters? :^)

                AMEN!

                #100218
                glen

                  I just wish I lived to Dallas.
                  I live about 250 miles south of RW.
                  Not exactly the same.

                  #100220
                  Tracy Carman
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                    I just wish I lived to Dallas.

                    Me, too. I’m in Massachusetts… far from Dallas (but shippers deliver here all of the time)!!

                    #100221
                    Tracy Carman
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                      …but what is the thinking at MPF behind storing multi-track session tapes like this, presuming that you already have the 2-track stereo reductions or backing tracks ?

                      Because it makes more sense than sending them to “the skip” (or the landfill, as they say here in the US). Too much stuff has been lost over the years. The only thing I dislike is the shipping bill… the customs fee… and so on and so on. It’s not a cheap adventure!

                      #100222
                      mb
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                        Get Collection #42 out and you can have $20 towards it :)

                        #100223
                        Tracy Carman
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                          Get Collection #42 out and you can have $20 towards it :)

                          We’re working on it. Someday I’ll explain the economics of this whole thing………………

                          #100225
                          GrahamCollins

                            Thanks Tracy – I suppose it does give you complete flexibility to remix or re-work logos in the future.

                            Comparing a 24-track session tape to the Mona Lisa or any finished painting doesn’t really work. A better analogy would be to say that the tape is the equivalent of Leonardo’s paint-box. It’s just raw audio, flat and dry.

                            Until someone with considerable skill works on each track to add EQ, compression, panning and a host of possible outboard FX, then mixes it all to a stereo 2-track master you do not have anything that is listenable or could be considered finished.

                            #100226
                            IanF

                              Too much stuff has been lost over the years.

                              Very true. To think of the amount of audio that has been thrown out of stations worldwide over the past 40 years and more is very sad indeed

                              #100227
                              mb
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                                It’s sad that in the UK the GWR group and management pretty did it much as a wholesale exercise when it took over stations – Some staff gleefully tossing out all the archives as a sign of the worthlessness of their heritage and that the GWR way was the only way! They were cultural vandals destroying hours of local audio archives and jingles!

                                #100228
                                michi
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                                  It’s just as bad here… radio just does not appreciate its heritage. In less than 10 years, we are going to be coming up on the 100th anniversaries of some stations.. hopefully stations will take the time to remember and acknowledge their past.

                                  #100229
                                  glen

                                    Tracy
                                    I’m 2200 miles from Dallas around 4000 from you.

                                    #100230
                                    Tracy Carman
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                                      I’m 2200 miles from Dallas around 4000 from you.

                                      Well anytime you find yourself in this neck of the woods, feel free to stop by for a tour, like several others have. :)

                                      #100414
                                      Tracy Carman
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                                        They’ve made it to port in NY and should be here by mid-next week.

                                        #100415
                                        amigo
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                                          I’ve always wondered how you re-create the finished product mix? Is there a cheat sheet of all the separate settings for each of the 24 tracks?

                                          Amigo

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