[rakMember]

Does anyone know who’s behind these ‘radio stations’ ?

https://www.facebook.com/invictaradio
http://www.invictaradio.net/
https://www.facebook.com/radiotees
http://www.radiotees.net/

Presumably there are others…

[GrahamCollins]

Yes this will be ex Mercia Sound jock Andy Lloyd……

[IainJohnston]

A month to the day too early for April Fool?

Great idea, and a very competent “pitch” – BUT as an ex-(very small) shareholder in various real ILR companies/stations in the past, I truly doubt if this will work in financial terms (unless they have the same “cross-EU tax and finance structures” as the “other radio companies” who never “make a profit in the UK” but “earn” huge tax-free interest to themselves by loaning “themselves” crazy money backwards & forwards across national boundaries…)

And has often been discussed here & in other places on many occasions, the station names being touted are still registered to whatever corporate entities that own the companies that owned the companies…that…that owned the original stand-alone stations.

Plus – jingle Copyrights that may require “clearance” even for online use may still be extant.

Always worth remembering that in the world of tax, many an “investment structure” is “designed to fail” so that the “losses” can be used by the investors to “offset” tax required elsewhere. Certain UK “ILR” companies in the past have been blatantly exploited purely just as “vehicles” for just that purpose. (I know that from financially painful personal direct experience of what was done to internally-manipulate a once-thriving UK radio group).

Not that in any way whatsoever I would suggest that this is what is happening in this particular instance.

I wish them well though :^)

[jonnoMember]

not sure why I made this montage.. https://soundcloud.com/jonno-22/resing-of-alfasounds-radio-trent-news-jingle/comment-273099049 It is extremely monotonous… a prize goes out to anyone who sticks it out until the end

[GrahamCollins]

Use of all jingle packages that will be heard across the revived stations have been negotiated with Steve England and David Arnold.

[RobinBlamires]

It’s as if the last 35 years never happened.

[IainJohnston]

“Use of all jingle packages that will be heard across the revived stations have been negotiated with Steve England and David Arnold”

Well, its good to see that they’ve “done their homework”.
But I doubt they’ll be permitted to use the defunct-but-owned-elsewhere station names commercially.
And if only online then they’ll never pay their way. Its simply not technically practical nor economically sound.

HOWEVER – have they perhaps been researching the “mini-DAB” trials currently running (e.g. the Glasgow SFN and other mini-muxes) Graham?

THEN the concept at least DOES have a potential, and at drastically lower carriage-cost-per-possible-listener than online or on full-blown DAB multiplexes.

Will be interesting to see how this unfolds!

PS – Jonno, I claim my prize – but only if you can tell me if that was “Derwent Sound” or was it “Severn Sound”?!?

[IainJohnston]

OK – they appear to have “bagged” the use of certain “old” station names. I commend them for that – it would not have been easy in some instances.

To be scrupiously fair, interested parties should have a good read through the following links…

http://search.aol.co.uk/aol/search?enabled_terms=&s_it=client97-sb&q=independent+local+radio+PLC+

(£235 kick-started so far, another £202,765 to go…)

[jonnoMember]

PS – Jonno, I claim my prize – but only if you can tell me if that was “Derwent Sound” or was it “Severn Sound”?!?

It is Derwent Sound – although I don’t recall a heritage station of that name.

PS – you can collect your prize next time you’re doon sooth

[IainJohnston]

At last! that and £25 on the Premium Bonds in the same MONTH!

“Derwent Sound” – aye…anyone doing a little bit of “research” into plugging-in much of the “public domain info” on the topic under discussion will find a strange intertwined “structure” of …. utter fluff. And “expired”/dormant entities. And “company names” that seem like the originals, but with one word different. And so on. And even discussions of the nature of this proposed project on Digit&l Sp* as far back as September of last year, including comments on the use of trademarked intellectual property (e.g. certain yellow/blue cartoony character things in videos…).

Its all “out there” in the public domain, so nothing I’ve commented here is improper. And many others have said it long before me.

But I just hope Steve E got his cheque for those “news jingles” cashed in promptly.
Ditto Pete Baker on the “pitch” videos (THE Pete Baker, once of Piccadilly???)

[Bigdave]

(£235 kick-started so far, another £202,765 to go…)

Is the £235 for Pennine ?

[IainJohnston]

I’d already thought of that Dave when I posted – and thought it was too corny :^)

Still, the contributions might still reach… 261… or 301 … (“great rewards for backers” apparently…)

[jonnoMember]

you forgot 257

[IainJohnston]

“257”…well, they do “claim” to have the right to use the Radio Victory name!
I’m sure if they really do manage to start on your patch…

Think its about time now to “rest” this particular topic Gents?
I’m sure that if anything “meaningful” does happen to the defunct Trent Sou… sorry “ILR”s plans then it’ll all be on Radio Today, Digit&l Sp*, or indeed the Companies House Bulletin.

[jonnoMember]

Looks like the original crowd funding project was scrapped, and a new scaled back (Radio Victory only) campaign set up https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/unique-local-radio-station-for-portsmouth#/
but after two months, and only £571 pledged, I think this project will not see the light of day.

[RobinBlamires]

Can’t say I’m surprised. 25 grand to fulfill a wet dream.

[IainJohnston]

When I trawled all the links for this “project” back in March, it only seemed “concrete” for the Portsmouth thing. And that alone still didn’t stack up financially or technically to me. The rest was purely “speculative” cut & paste “fluff”.

Lets be fair though – thinking back to the days of (many of) our youth, we’ve all really been “wannabe disk jockeys” at one time or another!
Quite a few people on this Forum genuinely HAVE “made it”, whether as volunteers or professionally on on-air stations of all kinds or levels in all sorts of places, or internet radio, or even “bedroom FM’s”.

Personally, I never made it and was never going to! – but I wouldn’t have dreamed of asking other people to “fund” it – I was quite happy to get my personal Walter Mitty style “radio kicks” by being a (very) small shareholder in a number of “proper” radio companies over the years so I’d be able to say “I own a bit of a radio station” – just like some people “own a bit of a racehorse…”.

As I originally said, I hope Steve E & Pete B got their payment up-front!

Jonno – I take it you won’t have bought the £100 or whatever (Portsmouth) TeeShirt goodies package then?!?! (Very rare Collectors item for Antiques Roadshow in 2056)…

[jonnoMember]

Iain, I certainly have no desire to contribute financially I have no interest in

Unlike https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1558089494/thunderbirds-1965-new-episodes-from-1960s-recordin (going way off topic- sorry) which I was more than happy to back to the tune of £35, for which in return, I will receive a BluRay disc of the new episodes in the next few days.

[RobinBlamires]

Only that Thunderbirds (the original series) can be enjoyed over multiple generations. Something radio of a bygone age may never achieve.

[IainJohnston]

Nice one Jonno!
I wish I’d known about that one – I would have chipped-in too, and added to all the original-series DVDs and soundtrack music CDs I have here.
Personally I find the “new” series a bit “jazzy” and “shouty”, but I like the faithfullness of the “hardware bits” – and even the pool deckchairs getting blown sideways by the rocket exhaust!

Coincidently, I received a “Want to renew your lapsed subscription?” nudge from F&nderson this week…

Apologies to those wondering what we’re on about!
And now back to … jingles or something…
:^)

[PKMember]

I know what you’re talking about lol! I briefly met Gerry Anderson back in 1991!

[IainJohnston]

“I briefly met Gerry Anderson back in 1991!”

Utter genius!

His “2065” future technology seemed daft when we were in the 19-60s – yet now EVERYONE talks into a small screen box in their hand, whether a watch, mobile, or whatever the equivalent of a powder compact or tea-pot is these days! And the latest commercial space craft under trials in the USA has – 3 legs and lands vertically.
All he got wrong really was the reel-to-reel tape decks instead of PCs and flash-drive WAV/MP3 … not bad!

Several years ago, when the Ford Ka first came out, we saw a “Lady Penelope Pink” one here on the main road close to the Forth Bridges – and the plate WAS … FAB1 – don’t know if it was a photo-shoot or something – never heard more of it – maybe someone was able to afford the Reg for their brand new motor? :^)

[GrahamCollins]

I always smiled when I saw DIN plugs being used as gooseneck microphones !

[PKMember]

When I met Gerry, Radio Caroline had had brief attempts (pre 1999 and Maidstone TV Studios) of broadcasting on Astra via Satellite. We talked about the Richochet episode and how the best remembered of the 60s pirates and the influence for that episode had made Gerry’s idea a reality, even though by then Caroline was doing it all legit.

The main thing Gerry did get wrong obviously was DJs living on and broadcasting from the satellite itself lol! Although Caroline did broadcast from the Ross Revenge over Astra! As it did earlier this year from the Ross on DAB in Norwich becoming the first DAB offshore radio station!

The picture quality of Videophones in Stingray and Thunderbirds from phoneboxes is still far superior to Skype over 50 years later!

BTW having seen FAB 1 close up twice in 91 & 94, the microphone was a TV Coax plug lol!

[jonnoMember]

BTW having seen FAB 1 close up twice in 91 & 94, the microphone was a TV Coax plug lol!

although as Graham pointed out, they did use Din plugs as microphones elsewhere too.

and don’t forget the lemon squeezer on the wall in Thunderbird 1’s hangar

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